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Colorado lawmaker tells anti-gay Christians: ‘Get thee to a nunnery’
“Don’t claim religion as a reason the law should discriminate,” state Sen. Pat Steadman (D) said earlier this month. “We have laws against discrimination. Discrimination is banned in employment, and housing, and public accommodations, and so bakeries that serve the public aren’t supposed to look down their noses at one particular class of persons and say ‘we don’t sell cakes to you.’ It’s troubling, this discrimination. And it’s already illegal.”
“So, what to say to those who claim that religion requires them to discriminate?” the Colorado lawmaker continued. “I’ll tell you what I’d say: ‘Get thee to a nunnery!’ And live there then. Go live a monastic life away from modern society, away from people you can’t see as equals to yourself. Away from the stream of commerce where you may have to serve them or employ them or rent banquet halls to them.”
“Go some place and be as judgmental as you like. Go inside your church, establish separate water fountains in there if you want, but don’t claim that free exercise of religion requires the state of Colorado to establish separate water fountains for her citizens. That’s not what we’re doing here.”
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Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 17, 2013 at 2:48pm That's a nice story, Daniel. I'm sure that made your day.
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 16, 2013 at 12:19am Sentient, I am happy to learn of your positive experience.
Comment by Sentient Biped on February 15, 2013 at 11:20pm Just something I can't get out of my mind. I can't say I'm not out at work - I've talked about my partner to most of the coworkers who are closest to me, and my senior manager, and HR knows for sure. I have speculated that it's at least a factor, if not THE factor, for why I was harassed into leaving a prior office location, where my performance by all measures was among the best but the harassment was intolerable. So most of the time I keep to myself, and never speak explicitly, at all, about being gay. It's not hidden at all, but I just keep quiet.
Yesterday the office staff were discussing their husbands' lack of giving them chocolates or flowers for valentines day. "My hubby never gives me flowers" . In my role, I don't engage in the banter and gossip. I'm just nice to everyone. As I walked past, one of them said, "So, did your hubby give YOU flowers for valentines day?" Blew me away. I had never spoken to her about my hubby.
The answer was, "No, he's in China for Chinese New Year with his family" and she say "Awe, you poor man! You deserve better"
Made me feel really good. Totally accepting. Nice feeling.
I still have some PTSD about an earlier life of abuse and harassment and discrimination. But yesterday felt really good.
Comment by Sentient Biped on February 15, 2013 at 11:10pm I am sure the "god made a gay man" video is a parody of the awful Paul Harvey dodge commercial. I could also comment on the issue of inclusiveness - maybe it will start an internet meme for "god made a ..... " LGBTI person. Or even "Evolution made a....."

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 15, 2013 at 10:58pm The pro-gay message of your video is great, Sentient Biped, but the drumbeat of theism -yuck!
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