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I find it offensive as an inclusive term, whether people worldwide use it or not. To my knowledge changing it to LGBTQ Atheists and then spelling out the acronym would do for anyone searching for the group.
When the group names were merged, there were long long long long discussions about what to use. The fact is, a lot of people around the world use gay as an inclusive term. A lot of people still don't accept "queer" as anything but an insult - it would be like using the "n-word" in the title of a group about racial issues. Use of search terms sometimes requires precision - LGBT and GLBT and LGBTQ and GLBTQ and LGBTQI etc . I find it frustrating that the first person thing someone has to say is they don't like the name of the group - discounting what has been said and done in the past. There's no problem with having a discussion of terminology - billions of ascii characters have been spent doing so - starting a discussion topic would be appropriate, as opposed to the group comment wall. I remember when Ellen came out - she said Yep, I'm gay". The designation "LGBTQI" prioritizes Lesbians as first in the list, and the order of terminology sets up a prioritization that I in general find offensive - not because Lesbians are first, but why leave some people as add on at the end and only use them occasionally - everyone is important. I do not agree with removing "Gay" from the group name. Gay is not just gay men and never was - if it was, the "men" would not need to be added to "gay", it would be redundant. Please tell me a generally accepted term that is inclusive, widely accepted, useful as a search term, does not prioritize people as some being "first" some being "last" and some being lost in the middle, that is not offensive, and that people in most countries will recognize.
Yes, he's a good guy.
IDK, I kind of like the name to include "gay" in the title, as I suspect most new members will search using that term. The group was originally just called Gay Atheists, and there was another one called LGBT Atheists or something like that. But a group of us lobbied to have that one closed because we felt it was 1.) redundant, and 2.) nonsensical to have two groups carrying on similar discussions.
However, since then they have approved several other gay, bi, polyamorous groups, which I don't see the point of doing. This group has over 500 members, most not active, but still: why divide everyone up like that when we all have similar interests.
@Dallas Gaytheist...thanks for sharing that awesome video! It always makes my day to see stuff like this and know the world is getting better even if it doesn't seem like it sometimes.
@Shanna...oh I see what you mean...I must have just passed right over it; never saw it. Message the person that created the group then. Maybe they can change the name.
I realize that. What I mean is that it says "Gay" and then qualifies that as "LGBTQ." Non-heterosexuals are not all under the subheading of gay. It seems to me it would be better to just cut out the "Gay" and call the group "LGBTQ Atheists."
@Shanna...Not everyone always types all the letters involved in the community (LGBTTIQQA) but if you'll look in the description it says, "
Nontheist lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex people & friends."
@Sentient Biped....wasn't that the bird cage? Oh no...they were anything but boring! LOL
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