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Permalink Reply by Prog Rock Girl on October 28, 2011 at 5:50pm

Good thing she was discharged. There is nothing like listening to hours of proselytizing from someone you're obligated to be in the same room with.

Permalink Reply by Richard Healy on October 29, 2011 at 3:01am

I read the soldier's statement from the article, the abuse of authority is of course disgusting and deserving of reprimand.  Though what was intriguing to me, especially as I half-expected the soldier to be outraged at the imposition of a god belief as so possibly in that sense antitheist was the complimentary strain of Christianity in the soldier's brain - the evangelising nurse is nothing new but this was a straight contrast that highlights the utter absurdity of faith.


I went in search of help because I have been suffering from severe depression and anxiety for years following the unexpected end of my service to my country.   I prayed for days beforehand, and the whole way there that morning.  I asked God to allow whatever was supposed to happen to me that day, whatever his plan was for my life, for it to happen, and for him to be with me every step of the way.   I was lost, hopeless, and already in a horrible place mentally, and I felt like this was literally my last hope in life.   I checked in as a new veteran to the area, as I am originally from New Orleans, LA.  I was treated wonderfully by the staff as I checked in. I felt surprisingly optimistic about what was about to happen.


Is it me or is that a total non-sequitur?  Presumably, this delusion of the efficacy of prayer and of personal guidance by a divine entity is still intact, and the course of the discrimination proceedure and it's outcome will all be viewed as though this is ' what god wanted to happen'

"The fact is, I was raised in a Non-Denominational church for most of my life, and consider myself to have a very personal relationship with God.  I was saved, baptized, twice actually. The first time I was a child and it was my parent’s decision, so I asked to be baptized again when I became a teenager and was able to make that decision for myself, and ask Jesus, again, into my heart."

This is odd, obviously baptism is seen as significant, somehow effective and on the point of 'having a personal relationship' with a god - this seems something both women claim to have!

I suppose it's an example of if you permit absurdities and fallacies to dominate your reasoning you can entertain conclusions that are mutually contradictory.  God both hates and loves homosexuals and will damn everyone to hell unless you are saved  -twice (isn't that what baptism is?) by my count Esther would seem to qualify; it would therefore all appear to turn on the nurse's belief that the soldier's belief is somehow insincere.

 

 

Permalink Reply by Dallas the Phallus on October 29, 2011 at 5:45pm

Great points Richard. IMO, I would say this woman was an enabler for the nurse on some level, because she clearly endorses theistic nonsense. If you do that, then you have to take the bad with the good, I suppose.

 

However, the nurse is still wrong because she would not likely know the beliefs of the patient. Her job is to treat the problems with science or psychology, not theistic nonsense. She is abusing her position. Instead of practicing medicine, she is practicing voodoo essentially.

Permalink Reply by Sentient Biped on October 29, 2011 at 11:17am

What that nurse did was unethical, disappointing, and thoughtless.  She is a pathetic ignorant asshole.