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I tried to think of something to say about this. In a sense, it's like "Vegetarian Sausagemakers conference planned for Nebraska". It's certainly their right.

Seems to me that if christians see that their family members, friends, community members are gay and human and contributing to their cause, and are not initiating their young into buggery in the church basement (unlike catholic priests), then that benefits equality. Especially given that christian churches are the main source of discrimination in much of the nonmuslim world.

On the other hand, a side of me wants to laugh at the pathetic people who are gay and still want to hold on the their christianity. I know, I should be ashamed of myself.

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It sort of brings to mind a Muslim Luau, or an Indian Steak House. It has to have something akin to the "Stockholm Syndrome" going here. To warmly embrace an imaginary friend who has, "in writing" called you an abomination, now that is taking "Com-by-ya" to the extreme, don't you think?
You are a bad person. :-) Muslim Luau, too funny. And how about that New Dehli - style rib-eye!

The Stockholm syndrome aspect may well be part of the point, although most US LGBTQ people probably grew up in their religion, as opposed to being kidnapped into it.
My Indian husband likes steak:P
Listening to the preaching at a Gay Christian conference is when I fully came to realize that I just couldn't believe that stuff anymore.

However, when I was still clinging on, and trying to figure things out, it was helpful to find people who were willing to accept me for being gay, without me having to address Christianity at the same time. I don't understand how someone stays in that position. Then again, I don't think there is any inherent reason that Christianity is so anti-gay. They've recovered from other biblical bigotries and may get over this one as well.

I really can't say if there was any one thing that made me stop realize that there wasn't any substance to Christianity, but the church's stance on gay issues was certainly a strong part of it.
David,
I'm glad that you had the support of the gay christian movement while you were questioning. Despite the rampant homophobia in christianity, there are supportive congregations out there.

I attended a christian-related group for several years, that met in a methodist church basement. That was in Indiana, where everything seemed to be church oriented. The minister was a married closeted gay man. I was atheist even then, but it was the only thing in town that was actually pro-gay. Even though Im glad I no longer live in that area, and even though that was in a church, I was very grateful to have LGBTQ friends and a sense of community.
BTW, to clarify, the GCN conference mentioned in the article is not the one where the preaching confirmed my atheism. That was at an evangellical's concerned gathering (EC). EC is quite a bit more concervative, and is basically fairly standard conservative evangellical Christianity, just with the homophobia left out.

GCN seems to be able to associate better with other Christian groups that are a bit more tolerant.

I actually was the choir accompanist for an MCC for about six months after fully realizing I didn't believe. Basically, it took that long for them to find a replacement.

From what I can tell, there seem to be numerous little pockets of gay Christians in all kinds of places. Although addressing my sexuality was definitly something that made me think about religion, and ultimately realize I didn't believe, it certainly doesn't seem to be the norm. Most people struggle intensely with it, and end up either coming up with some kind of strange compromise view, or remaining self-loathing.

I do know someone who has decided that God wants him to remain celebate. I known many that have gone through that as a stage, but actually only one who seems like he really might stay there.
I'm laughing too, but I feel a little bad about it. I was brainwashed to such an extent that I spent part of my early gay years trying to hang on to xtianity. It is interesting that people find the will to champion something that, for the most part, has hung them out to dry.

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