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Comment by sk8eycat on February 24, 2015 at 11:03pm

I thought that sleeve-cutting myth was about a sleeping kitten....

Comment by Daniel W on February 24, 2015 at 10:27pm

50 LGBTI factoids  I knew a lot of these but not all.  Kind of devoid of context - for example, the story about gay Chinese being sleeveless is based on the emperor's lover falling asleep on his arm, and when the emperor wanted to move, he cut off his sleeve so he would not awaken his lover.

Anyway, it's interesting reading the factoids all in a list.

Comment by Daniel W on February 23, 2015 at 11:00am

Lunar New Year - also called Chinese New Year, is the largest mass migration of humanity in the world.  It's like Christmas, Thanksgiving, and the Hadj, combined.

Comment by David Matheu on February 22, 2015 at 6:15am

Adding insult to injury, this shameless "pedia-christian" lectured the two moms about what her god commands. She was unprofessional and totally unethical. Although there's no law protecting LGBT, her patient (the baby girl) is protected. Only a boycott of that pediatric practice will make her associates leave or force her to leave

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2015 at 11:08pm

On gay wedding cakes...  Im not sure I agree, but I get Matt's point.

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2015 at 9:30pm

I'm thinking about a general forum discussion on this topic.  On graduation from medical school, some doctors take the Declaration of Geneva (OHSU did that), some take Oath of Hypocrites, some take other oaths or none at all.  Depends on the medical school.  This is the Oath of Geneva, the Physician's oath taken at the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession:

"I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;

"I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due;

"I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity; the health of my patient will be my first consideration;

"I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honor and the noble traditions of the medical profession; my colleagues will be my brothers;

"I will not permit considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics or social standing to intervene between my duty and my patient;

"I will maintain the utmost respect for human life from the time of conception,

"Even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity;

"I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honor."

Obviously, this pediatrician DOES permit religion and/or politics to intervene between her duty and her patient.   In addition, the health of her patient is not her first consideration.  Based on my understanding, she is clear in her violation of medical ethics.

However, as far as I know, the state medical boards to not require that any doctor has taken an oath, or that the doctor follow that oath.   In addition, I don't think Michigan includes LGBT people in its laws regarding discrimination and public accommodations. 

Felaine, being male of female doesn't guarantee any kind of sympathy or empathy.  But I know you already know that.

Comment by sk8eycat on February 20, 2015 at 6:31pm

Loren, the doctor in question is a WOMAN!!  You's think a female would be more sympathetic, but NOHHHHHHH!

Comment by Loren Miller on February 20, 2015 at 6:13pm

Whatever training he may have gotten, it was likely superseded in his mind by his biblical indoctrination.  And once again, someone allows unsubstantiated fantasy preference over verifiable fact.

Were it up to me, his license to practice medicine would be history.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 20, 2015 at 6:11pm

Loren, I agree with every word you wrote. I especially like your comments about contraception, family planning, and the role of a doctor in these decisions. 

A doctor who doesn't provide family planning services or doesn't want to serve GLBT adults has the obligation to provide the names of doctors who do, at the very least. Don't leave people hanging as she did. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 20, 2015 at 6:07pm

About the letter from the doctor denying services to the baby, 

1. It wasn't an apology for not providing care; it was an apology for not delivering the message herself.  

2. The doctor gave no indication as to whether she would or would not provide services for the baby. The parents clearly can reject any offer from her if they have other options. One could understand and support their not wanting to use her services.

3. The doctor surely has fallen for the "free will" agreement between herself and her God. The story goes that God gave the individual free will. The choice was whether the supplicant would suit god's need for obedience or not ... not that the doctor had free will as to whether to treat a child or not. 

4. It surprises me that a physician has any trouble at all with gender identification. Doesn't medical training cover that topic?

 

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