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Comment by sk8eycat yesterday

Those "terms" seem to be coming from the same hyper-bigoted talk radio dingbats, like Limblow, who still calls any woman who wants the same rights in the workplace as men a "feminazi."  He's been doing that for 30 or 40 years.

These people have NO logical reason to discriminate against anyone, but for some reason they fear women, LGBT people, immigrants, people of color, whatever, so all they can do is call us names.  Like little bullies on the playground.

They are  driven by irrational fear, that they can't express except by name-calling. 

Comment by Joan Denoo yesterday

Oh dear! I have not been aware of the language used by people who should know better, yet speak without embarrassment when referring to GLBT in such venomous terms. Your example, Daniel, is so full of hate language, even in the face a growing awareness that there is no reason to fear or shun people of different sexual orientations.
If anything, the shunning should be directed to those who raised up little girls and boys to deny their sexuality. That is true child abuse  

Comment by sk8eycat yesterday

Dear Sentient, "conservatives" are only concerned with conserving their own money and power.  They claim that everything was just dandy in they "good old days" when people like Astor and Prescott bush's father ruled Wall St...and garment workers starved (or died in fires.)  They hate all the reforms that FDR's administration introduced, and would be delighted if middle class workers all died the day they turned 65...well I would have been happy to do that...then...but that was 10 years ago, and now I'm adding my little bit to the fight for EVERYONE's constitutional rights.  I don't give a sh*t what color they are, or who they love, or even what they worship...as long as the latter keep their beliefs out of my government, and face.

I'm an angry old b*tch,  And I've had enuf of smarmy politicians.

Comment by Sentient Biped yesterday
Comment by Sentient Biped yesterday
I may have to stop reading the LGBT blogs. The proliferation of hate language gets to me. It's nothing new, but having lived this long in a hate filled world filled with people who are enamored of their own words and hate, it's tiresome. The words "gaystapo" and "homofascism". Placing the word, gay, and marriage when applied to glbt people, in quotes to imply "so-called gay" and "so-called marriage". I suppose, we could start placing the words "conservative" in quotes, since people who claim the term are not into conserving the environment, or fostering prosperity of all Americans. And placing "christian" in quotes, since they clearly don't follow the teachings of christ, and clearly don't obey the bible except where they find it useful.
Comment by Sentient Biped yesterday
Joan thank you for the wise advice. It helps in the evolution of my thought process
Comment by Joan Denoo on Sunday

This may sound unrealistic to many, but I have been involved in political campaigns before and I know some things about getting the attention of politicians. 

1. Watch the videos by Sean Faircloth. He is a great strategist for atheism. 

2. Read Rules for Radicals, a book politicians hate because it is responsible for some effective politicking.

3. Read Pedagogy of the Oppressed, by Paulo Freire. He was good at rallying the people. 

4. Form coalition of like-minded people, i.e. gays, and lobby your congresspeople. Sean confirms my experience, politicians pay attention to people who talk to them. Form a group, develop an action plan, and go talk to the candidates. Ask them specific questions of interest to you. Tell them what your position is. Have talking points ahead of time so you can demonstrate the need for action. 

Personally, I found I could have an effect when I called up candidates in my district and made appointments to see them privately. Sometimes they listen. Sometimes they don't. At least you can watch what they say and do publicly and how they vote to know if they heard you. It is better to know your enemy. Politicians are wonderful manipulators. 

Who was the president who was known as agreeing with everybody and then voted from his own understanding? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on Sunday

OH! sk8eycat ! What an awful thing to do .. to the son, no wonder he was angry, ... and to his wife. I hope she didn't allow that to happen to her more than one. If he would drop her once, he has a capacity to do it again. 

You have seen some rough relationships in your time. Building healthy relationships is the best revenge for yourself! In fact, it is the only revenge that makes sense to me. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on Sunday

The mean-spirited, corrupt, supremacists of any stripe, self-righteous, opinionated men and women of the world pass on their lethal poison to those around them and to children. They infect everyone they touch. Hate, covering up fear, exists as part of their disease.

That is why people, such as those of us who have different values and principles, need to stand up and speak out. I didn't stand up about my atheism because I was afraid of what my family, friends, neighbors and community would think of me. I just had one too many, "I'll pray for you!" or any of what I call the:

Passive Gospel, yield, pray, obey, turn the other cheek, love him to the lord, crucify yourself daily in imitation of the crucified christ and rejoice in your crucifixion."

I asked myself in 1974, "I have done all that I understand to do and where has it gotten me?"

NO WHERE!  

"So, given that reality, what should I do now?" 

I thought about my natural gifts that I had nothing to do with creating. I could see, hear, smell, taste and speak, feel with my heart and my gut, and I have a brain to think. 

Therefore, why was I created? What is my purpose in life? Where do I find the answers? 

If I have my senses, then I am created to use them. My purpose in life is to develop them to their full potential. I find my answers within me. 

The rest was easy. Well, kind of. 

I asked myself: "Do I have what it takes to raise my children into mentally healthy, mature adults? Do I know how to earn a living to support my needs? Do I have the capacity to learn all that I need to know?" 

"YES! I DO!"

And so do we all. 
Some of us have to remain silent to preserve income and family relationships. I support those who have to choose that option. There are others of us who have no reason to remain silent, other than fear of those who "love" to hate. 

If fear holds us back from speaking truth to disease, maybe if we stand up they will crumble like the cowards they are. If they are bullies, maybe they are full of hot air and will burst. How will we know if we never try? 

Comment by sk8eycat on Saturday

How many battered children were "accidental conceptions," ie: unwanted? 

I once knew a guy whose mother told him often that he was an "accident" and had ruined her showbiz career.  He grew up to be a wife beater.  His wife was also his adagio partner, and if he got mad at her he'd drop her out of an overhead lift, and then say he tripped on something on the ice.

 

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