FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO

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FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO

American history, politics, and culture: a non-partisan look at our past and how it influences our lives today.

Location: USA
Members: 38
Latest Activity: May 5, 2012

WELCOME TO FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

-- Abraham Lincoln, The Gettysburg Address, November 19, 1863


FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO was formed to help us explore the history, politics, and culture of America and its people.

Like many Americans, my understanding of the history and events that shaped this nation—and the people we are today—is greatly lacking. Modern life is structured in a way that does not require us to draw upon our history as a frame of reference when making decisions, when interpreting the news or political propaganda, when voting, or even when stating our opinions—although we would be better off if it did.

To be honest, I probably will not post to this group very often, as history is not my strength. FOUR SCORE was created to give you history buffs out there a chance to show us what you know, and give persons like me an opportunity to learn something new.

Understanding where we’ve been will help us understand where we are going. Understanding who we have been will help us understand who we will become. Understanding how the past affects the present will help us understand how the present shapes the future.


Rules of Participation
This is non-partisan group, so posts need to be fact-oriented, educational, professional, and—you guessed it—non-partisan. There are several political groups on A|N, and inside those groups members often say things that would probably irritate other people outside of those political parties. If you want to be with like-minded members, then join one of those groups (links provided below). Of course, I realize that when dealing with political and historical events, it will be difficult to be 100% non-partisan, and someone may always take exception to this or that—but just strive to be as fair as you can, and watch what you say. Try to stay focused on education and verifiable information.

Be brief: Comprehensive is good, but brevity is better. There is a lot of information on the web, and a lot of activity on A|N—basically, there are a lot of things competing for our attention. You will get more mileage out of your posts if you remain succinct and focused.

Be focused: It is all but impossible to separate American history from world history, but when posting events that occur outside of the continental US, you will need to focus on how America has played a role in those events. For example, if you post something about the Israeli-Palestine conflict, you will need to show how that conflict affects the US, or how the US affects that conflict.

Be accurate: This is not a group for those who have an axe to grind, those eager to make outrageous and implausible claims, or for the gullible who believe the US was founded by aliens some time after they built the great pyramids in Egypt. In other words: No crazy stuff!

Be relevant: In the past decade I have noticed that the Geneva Conventions have been in the news quite a bit. How many of us fully understand what the Geneva Conventions are, why we signed them, and what they mean? If you see or hear of a current event, and some part of our history is relevant to that event, then please take the initiative to create a post that will help us understand it.

Posts do not have to be about politics or historical events only. Post can include, but are certainly not limited to:

  • Civil rights
  • Voting rights
  • Capitalism and economic policy
  • Native Americans, minorities, and social groups
  • Immigration history and trends
  • Government bureaus, organizations, and agencies
  • Famous and influential Americans (both in and out of office)
  • Inventions, commodities, and discoveries
  • Foreign policy and trade
  • The separation of church and state
  • Political demographics and political party history
  • National parks, landmarks, and treasures
  • Cities, towns, and sites of historical significance
  • Healthcare, welfare, social security, and other social programs
  • Personal or cultural customs, beliefs, and behaviors
  • Wars and conflicts

It is inevitable that there will be some cross-over in topics and issues related to American history with other groups here on A|N. Would you post Mark Twain in this group because he is an influential American, or would you post him in the Nexus Book Club? Tough choice! Use your best judgment and post the topic in the group that best fits the focus of the discussion. Please do not cross post the same discussion twice in different groups. It is against Atheist Nexus policy to do so.



Forbidden
  • Hostile or discourteous comments, proselytizing, and ad homenim attacks on other members.
  • Modern political debates and candidate/party information.
  • Current news and events unrelated to historical and non-partisan events.



Group member book and DVD recommendations:
The Founding Fathers (DVD), recommended by Dallas Gaythiest
Ben Franklin (DVD), recommended by Dallas Gaytheist
American Experience | Eleanor Roosevelt. recommended by Dallas Gaytheist



Other A|N groups of interest:
Anarchist Atheists
Barack Obama ’08
Conversations about Race, Ethnicity and Culture
Democrats/American Liberals
Free Thinking Anarchists
Green Party
History Talk
The Other Free Thinkers



External links of interest:
America.gov
Bill of Rights
Congress.org
Constitution of the United States
Declaration of Independence
Federal Election Commission
Help American Vote Act of 2002
House of Representatives
Library of Congress
The National Anthem: The Star-Spangled Banner
National Archives
National Park Service
Presidential Libraries
Presidents
Senate
Smithsonian Institution
Supreme Court
USA.gov
Voting Rights Act of 1965
White House

Discussion Forum

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Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by A Former Member Sep 27, 2010. 3 Replies

History Channel Nonsense

Started by Jim DePaulo. Last reply by Jim DePaulo Aug 13, 2010. 7 Replies

Favorite Quotes

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by A Former Member Jul 22, 2010. 19 Replies

Eleanor Roosevelt Documentaries

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by Brian Lemaire Mar 26, 2010. 5 Replies

Thomas Jefferson | A Film by Ken Burns

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by A Former Member Nov 13, 2009. 2 Replies

The Geneva Conventions

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by Jaume Oct 18, 2009. 5 Replies

The History Channel | Ben Franklin

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by A Former Member Oct 17, 2009. 9 Replies

James Madison's view point of the First Amendment

Started by Louis Davout. Last reply by Louis Davout Sep 26, 2009. 3 Replies

The Forgotten Slaves in America

Started by Jim DePaulo. Last reply by Jim DePaulo Sep 14, 2009. 7 Replies

The Naturalization Act of 1790

Started by A Former Member Sep 12, 2009. 0 Replies

American Experience | Alexander Hamilton

Started by A Former Member Sep 12, 2009. 0 Replies

The Naming of America

Started by A Former Member. Last reply by Jaume Sep 9, 2009. 6 Replies

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You need to be a member of FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS AGO to add comments!

Comment by Arthur Meunier on September 17, 2009 at 10:51pm
Ike’s Other Warning
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/03/opinion/03blumenthal.html?scp=1&sq=Republican%20Gomorrah&st=cse

Just throwing out an article I came across tonight from Max Blumenthal. Looks like his latest book will be on my reading list (not only for the history, but to better understand some of my J. Dobson brainwashed family members).
Comment by A Former Member on September 11, 2009 at 2:51pm
Welcome SGecko. I'm sure we all look forward to your contributions.
Comment by Gecko, Seth...brother of Richie! on September 11, 2009 at 2:49pm
Great to be here! Another one of my favorite subjects!
Comment by Claude Angeli on September 9, 2009 at 12:29am
Good point Louis, misinformation what does that mean for a historian.
We kind of deal with that now, but will it be easier or harder to discover.
Comment by Louis Davout on September 9, 2009 at 12:13am
Information and misinformation.
Comment by A Former Member on September 8, 2009 at 8:48am
@Claude, very true. Information has become our prime commodity.
Comment by Claude Angeli on September 7, 2009 at 9:38pm
Dallas,
I would say the difference is the level of information we consume. No other time period matches this nor the level of recording of information we have. History in the future wont just be some interpretation but video and sound from the actual event. Primary source takes on a new meaning. I am curious to see where this leads humankind.
Comment by A Former Member on September 5, 2009 at 12:52pm
...see nothing unique in their present...

Is there anything unique about our present? Fundamentally? The icing on the cake may be different, but it is still the same old cake.
Comment by Jim DePaulo on September 4, 2009 at 7:50pm
Those who do not know history see nothing unique in their present and will stumble blindly into their future.
Comment by OutlawGirl on September 2, 2009 at 5:19pm
I have a general interest in history so I hope to learn a little something in this group. Plus I'm part of Dallas's other groups so I figured why not? =)
 

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