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Comment by Patricia on November 30, 2014 at 1:48pm

I come from ''heavy stock'', & my not so laughingly called father abused food like crazy. I am built like him......short & top heavy.

I am careful with my foods as my innards dictate that, but I seldom eat sweets, I don't eat much ''white'' food, I make my own bread with whole wheat flour, bran, & ground flax seeds, & I don't eat ''junk food'', pre-packaged, or fast food.

I cook mainly from scratch with fresh foods, or frozen when needed. I absolutely never over-eat, or nibble between meals.

My husband starts the day with soda pop, coffee with sugar, oatmeal with sugar, goes to town to meet his coffee pals & more sugar. Has lunch with more pop, & then nibbles on Skittles, & salted, oily peanuts. Dinner is fine, but more Skittles after that, then Kellog's Nutribars before bed, chocolate before sleep, & then more Nutribars when he's up in the night. He is 5' 10'', 140 lbs.!

Comment by sk8eycat on November 30, 2014 at 1:33pm

It's not just's ALL simple (refined) carbohydrates..... especially white flour.  And heredity that goes back thousands of years.

Comment by Patricia on November 30, 2014 at 1:08pm

My husband almost lives on sugar, & is built like a broomstick! I don't have any interest in sweets & I have a weight problem.

Comment by Pat on November 30, 2014 at 12:19pm

Thank you Daniel. I had not heard of Michael Pollan before you mentioned him. Just got done reading "Food Rules" on my kindle. Well worth the cost of downloading it.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 30, 2014 at 7:20am

Daniel, I've read several Pollan's books. They're great! Confirms what I've been eating all these years works wonders.

Spud, Ball jars are made just "down the road" from me in Muncie IN. Ball State U. gets poked fun of for its name. Home of David Letterman and Garfield! I think PAT is right in his "educated guess", but I don't can.

Felaine, you should be proud of yourself. I've never been there--overweight--which is surprising, being I love sweets. Good genes, perhaps.

Deidre, thanks for the scone recipe. Maybe someday.

Comment by Pat on November 29, 2014 at 3:32pm

Spud, I don't know if it's harmful or not. Bear in mind, the following is speculation on my part.  However, I do can and preserve food, so it's somewhat of an 'educated' guess.

If you're putting the food in a canning jar and vacuum sealing it, you probably still have some oxygen in it. Oxygen can promote growth of bugs and pathogens. If you put an oxygen absorber in it, this will probably help tremendously, since the only gas left will be nitrogen. I have a Food Saver vacuum system. Even if I have vacuum packed dry food, I'll still put in the freezer to stop the growth of anything that may be left inside.

I even did this with the food I dehydrated from the garden years ago (before the ex-wife left the home built dehydrator I made, the size of a refrigerator, exposed to the elements where the wood rotted and snakes, possums, and wasps made their nests. Gee, sense any hint of bitterness on my part?)

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 29, 2014 at 2:43pm

I've been sealing some dry food in Ball canning jars, and I noticed a strong odor when first opening the empty jars.  I assume it's the seal out-gassing something, but I can't find any information on it.  Does anyone know if it's harmful?

Comment by Deidre on November 29, 2014 at 1:08pm

Greetings all. I made scones a few days ago, to take to friends as treats. (and keep some for me too) ^_^

First time I've ever made them, I followed a recipe from Food Network's Alton Brown. I learned what 'cut in butter' means. lol I never knew that. Make sure your butter is cold, and I used a mixer on low but probably would work even better with a pastry maker. But, I don't own one of those.

Here's the recipe:

Double the recipe if you want more than a dozen.

Comment by Daniel W on November 29, 2014 at 10:13am
Chris that sounds like a great story!

Pat the "eat real food" mantra has also long been a concept promoted by food author Michael Pollan in "food Rules". His books changed what I think of learning history, much more interesting and dynamic than I learnrd in school. if you haven't read them already, I do recommen Pollan's books.
Comment by sk8eycat on November 29, 2014 at 9:48am

Another interesting book is Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes....or his less technical sequel, Why We Get Fat.  The gist is that fatty foods do NOT go directly from the stomach to the arteries, and/or body cells. Our bodies are more complex than that.

ALL refined (simple) carbs should be approached with caution...white sugar, High Fructose Corn Syrup (which is what food processors are using more and more), white flour, white rice....

I was overweight and diabetic 15 years ago...I stopped using sugar immediately, and my blood glucose went to normal, but I was still fat.  About 4 years ago I switched to multi-grain bread with nuts for toast, brown rice, added bacon back to my eggs,  and turkey sandwiches (it's an easy, tasty way to baste turkey, too), and other "whole" foods....I lost 40 lbs without craving anything and without hunger.  I may have lost more weight this year, but I haven't weighed myself since February.  My clothes don't fit now....sweatshirts don't matter.

I stopped taking my diabetic meds several months ago because I can't afford it anymore, and I was having hypoglycemic attacks, and my blood sugar still tests within the CDC's normal range.  My A1c was below normal for the last year.

I have always used butter, cream, or half & half.  Low fat milk gags me, and margarine reminds me of axle grease with water added...can't cook with the stuff, either.

My sister is more than 100 lbs overweight, religiously follows all the diet instruction sheets her doctor gives her, and hasn't lost a pound or an inch.  She eats flavored, sweetened yogurt at least 3 times a day, non-fat cottage cheese, 1% milk (ugh!), no meat or eggs at all, and exercises. I don't.


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