Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)

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Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF)

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, based in Madison, Wis., is a national association of freethinkers (atheists, agnostics) that has been working since 1978 to keep church and state separate.

Website: http://ffrf.org
Location: Madison
Members: 666
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Comment by Earther on December 16, 2011 at 3:33pm

David, sk8eycat is absolutely correct.  You may even want to set up a time with the principal that you can actually sit in the class with your child as the lesson is being taught.  All you have to do is sit their quietly.  As you leave the class you tell the teacher, thank you for allowing me to join your class, I may be in again soon. ;)

Comment by sk8eycat on December 16, 2011 at 11:52am

David, contact FFRF's legal team NOW! They can write a letter of complaint to the principal of the school (keeping your family's name anonymous), and if that doesn't work, the next step is to complain to the local school board, threatening a lawsuit.  That's usually all it takes.  They remind the offenders of Supreme Court cases in which the plaintiffs have won on these issues, and also of the fact that in a civil lawsuit the loser has to pay the legal fees for both sides.

If your son's teacher was discussing and comparing all the world's major religions in a cultural context, it might be a different matter, but if he's talking about YHWH as He Who Must Be Obeyed, it's definitely a constitutional  violation.

Comment by Troy Gorsline on December 16, 2011 at 9:28am

That is a really tough spot in regards to your son. There is a fellow SWiFT member who is having issues as her sons are excited to attend a class camping trip. The facility this trip is using openly advertizes its teachings of creationism to youth before they learn of evolution. The goal is to make evolution seem strange to kids, thus pushing creationism in public schools. I believe FFRF is involved, but I am unsure what results can be acheived. The whole thing is very subtle. I agree, this teacher should not be doing this. Can you imagine the reaction if a Muslim teacher starting making comments and discussions on Ala (sp?) and Muhamed?

It would be a sight. Fox News would get involved for sure.

And I am sure it would be the President's fault... somehow.

Comment by David W on December 16, 2011 at 9:18am

My 8 year old son came home from public school talking about god and Jesus. I explained that certain things regarding that are illegal. He told his teacher what I said. His teacher is very xtain. Everyday for the last week he tells me, "we talked about god again." He doesn't go in to details, but I told him if any grown up at his school ever tells any student to pray, to walk out of class, go to the office, and call me. I don't want to make things hard for my child at school, but what in the hell am I to do? 

On a different note: I was extremely proud when I started to give an example of natural selection and he finished it for me. 

Comment by David W on December 16, 2011 at 8:54am

Regarding the death of Hitchens. That's ok, The Grand Wizard of hate and bigotry Pat Robertson will soon be gone.

Comment by David W on December 16, 2011 at 8:02am

Tim Tebow Tribute

ESPN interview with one of them

Comment by Earther on December 16, 2011 at 6:25am

Get ready for a lot of sly remarks about Hitchens from the news, I just heard one from CNN by a reporter saying something about him not changing his mind before he died and hoping he is not in hell, no they did not use the word hell but that is what he meant.

Comment by Natalie A Sera on December 15, 2011 at 11:46pm

You nailed it, Joan. Wife-beating and slavery were traditional for millennia, too, but that doesn't make them acceptable, either!

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 15, 2011 at 9:29pm

Nativity scenes on the lawns or in the parking lots of churches suit me just fine.  Some are interesting, others are funny, some evocative and others are just plain trashy.  The same for such scenes on lawns or at homes of Christians ... or whoever is so inclined.  There are some lovely people in my neighborhood who are devout in their faiths and beliefs and they like to display in celebration of their traditions.  Fine!

To put them in public parks or on public lands or on public schools grounds or inside is not appropriate. I don't want to see other religions displayed on public property as well.  Let's use a little judgement here folks.  Just because you have done if for years or decades or centuries does not make it acceptable.  

Comment by Steph S. on December 15, 2011 at 6:02pm

Thanks David for the link to that article.

 

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