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Donna, if you regularly went to the group and read the posts instead of getting only topic headings in your email would see the following.
After eight on topic posts (3 by women), an off topic post was made and the balance of the discussion stayed off topic because the troll kept posting about it.
Feds under counting rape victims:
Men dominated this discussion ( 38 posts as opposed to 3 by women). Two trolls dominated the discussion by complaining about a dispute over an irrelevant statistic from another topic.
The topic was completely derailed by two trolls (the usual suspects) over an insignificant statistical difference. They were outraged that the originator of the topic said 2% instead of 6% of convicted rapists ever see prison.
The salary gap between men and women for similar work:
Derailing the topic because one troll didn't like how the originator expressed the size of the pay gap - percentage instead of actual dollars.
A second troll denied there is any gap at all based on studies of a superficial nature. The studies document that women work fewer hours and take time off without acknowledging the reasons women are forced to do this, the by and large refusal of men to do child, elder care, and the rest of the work women stereotypically do. I know there are exceptions, we are talking about the common division of labor between genders.
Some random quotes by trolls
Feminist organizations have turned their efforts towards preserving those area of society where they receive special benefits, and denying equality for men in areas where men are victims of discrimination. To achieve these goals, they are prepared to lie and violate what Western society considers basic civil rights. You've seen the lying and the slander on this forum. You've seen the demonizing of those who do not believe the Feminist Mythology.
I do oppose feminism.
You should be truly ashamed of yourself for fabricating and perpetuating such obviously false statements regarding such a serious subject. asharu, if you find yourself having to lie in order to support your opinions, then it is time for you to abandon those opinions. (Ad hominem not allowed by the rules and guidelines)
I have to fall back on the fact that I frequently see cases in the news where a woman has falsely accused a man of rape or sexual assault. (topic was feds under counting rape victims)
It's not an obsession with percentages. If anything, that statement describes the initial post that started this whole mess. What Bruce was objecting to from the word go was a grotesque misuse of the statistics that were presented. (2% vs 6%?)
There is a general argumentative tone from these trolls and a willingness to derail over petty, insignificant, and irrelevant details.
These are specific instances where men posting have made trouble. Please bear in mind that this is a forum to discuss feminist perspective on atheism.
What is wrong with men posting in a Feminist forum?? Many men ARE feminists. And others can learn a lot from discussing the issues. Womna aren't "being silenced" if we CHOOSE not to post in an open forum discussion. Maybe the men were just more interested in those topics. Is there a specific thread where the male posters actually made trouble?
Good on you.
I have noticed that you haven't participated in the 9 most recent topics. That would make it easy to ignore the trolls.
In one of the threads, men posted 38 times and women 3.
Women are being silenced. Perhaps you are one of them, since I've not seen any posts by you. Just because you have no problem with trolls hijacking what should be a group focusing on feminist perspectives on atheism doesn't mean others feel the same way.
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