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Comment by Marissa Michael on May 17, 2011 at 2:18am
Yikes! I don't believe we are on the same page. Perhaps I was not very clear as your disection of my video rebuttal is not what I meant, at all. I apologize for your ruffled feathers--no need to belittle me. I suppose my point was that from a literary standpoint, I believe the authors did some great research (even with 'solutions' excluded). We hear impersonal figures about human trafficking (amongst other topics addressed) but the authors take you into the personal world of several women. I'm quite alright if you disagree with the value of the novel. No need to attack.
Comment by Marissa Michael on May 16, 2011 at 12:23pm
Ugh, I watched it. Thanks for sharing; however, I fail to see the point in this video. It seems it's her angry opinion to an article published prior to the book (no science in here, come on). Many of the arguments she is pushing are "liars" "liars". Kristof WuDunn did some amazing research but please don't accept ANY sort of literature as "word of the lord." {Haven't we already seen the detriment of that acceptance?}
This video spends a lot of time blowing air around about how sweatshops do not empower women--of course they don't. I'm quite sure the authors aren't saying "yes, sweatshops good. best thing to happen to women." But they are reaching out to their readers and challenging them to think about it a different way. And they absolutely are not saying that Imperialism ended footbinding. They are just showing that cultural taboos can be left in the past. Again, I think Taylor is taking this far too literally. Please don't forget to consider author's intentions. The Grimm's Fairy Tales were not written to desensitize children from guts and gore. Intentions aren't always written in the text.
Also, she spends some time telling us that the efforts Kristof WuDunn are pushing only further marginalize women in third world countries. But there's no specific example--can you tell us what you are talking about? Our authors give us many ways to get involved from simply staying informed or by searching out an organization that doesn't just throw money. I think that's excellent advice, especially for the average human being that may think sending a portion of their paycheck to any organization will help. It's a start. And they don't just give one organization, they give many as well as personal narratives about each of them. Sure, some are a lot more practical than others. But that's why we have brains--so we can do our own research and decide for ourselves.
Comment by TNT666 on May 16, 2011 at 12:25am
The points addressed in the video are correct. However I wouldn't use the terminology "scientific", as it's irrelevant, but she's correct in historical terms... unless one is part of the neo-liberal religion, which corresponds to most of the USA and Canadian population. Neo-liberalism is indistinguishable from Christianity. Interesting how policies created with the intent of "equality" result in mostly... equality. But true egalitarianism is not something that flies with modern Christianity, which is all about elitism.
Comment by Prog Rock Girl on May 15, 2011 at 11:15pm
Communist or anarchist response, complete with memorized vocabulary. She doesn't have anything close to a monopoly on scientific opinion.
Comment by Marissa Michael on May 15, 2011 at 10:33pm
I'm quite sure most of you have read or know Half the Sky by Kristof and WuDunn. If you have not, it is highly recommended from this literary junkie. The narration is strong (never boring; and I bore easily) and it's an incredibly informative piece with personal stories threaded through it's core.
Comment by TNT666 on March 17, 2011 at 12:47pm
Comment by dr kellie on March 17, 2011 at 11:46am

That is amazing.  Who knew?  I guess this over 40, over educated, single person qualifies, although I don't call myself a trekkie, even though I love me some Star Trek! 

Comment by Joseph P on March 14, 2011 at 6:49pm
I have a pink, button-down shirt.  Goes well with black slacks.
Comment by SecretWombat on March 14, 2011 at 5:21pm
Pink as a girl's colour is a fairly recent cultural invention. Prior to the 20th century girls in Europe were largely dressed in light blue because it was the colour of the Virgin Mary. Pink, on the other hand, was a subdued form of red - a colour perceived as masculine and active and hence considered appropriate for boys. It's worth noting that traditional Disney heroines wore blue.

There are many cultural connotations associated with different colours. There's nothing wrong with the colours themselves, it's the assumptions that a society constructs around them that can be detrimental.

For those who think that pink is fine because they don't see through these cultural filters, that's great. Remember your position next time you buy an item for a boy or man and choose pink to demonstrate how culturally neutral you really are!
Comment by TNT666 on March 11, 2011 at 4:19pm
That would be an interesting study. Take a group of 2-3 y/o boys and girls who have not been swathed in appropriately pink or blue blankies or PJs, place them in a field of natural wild flowers and see if pink out-attracts other colours in either sex. I'm guessing not. I'm guessing yellows and reds and purples and purples and whites and pintos will be equally popular.
 

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