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There seem to be a few of us ex-mo's in the Nexus and it is good to share the particular intricacies of extracting oneself from Mormonism.

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Comment by Rick on April 9, 2010 at 8:23am
Larry,
Yes, the Mormon church is very patriarchal. If you look into the doctrine, it is very clear that women are of lesser value. Women require a man to "pull them through" the veil into the highest kingdom of heaven. They cannot do it on their own. Men should have multiple wives (D&C 132, it is still in the book because it was denounced through manifesto, not revelation) but women can have only one man. I could go on and on. In my old stake, you didn't commonly see women who were "subjugated" as such, but the doctrine is clear, women cannot be prophets, or hold the priesthood, they are simply put, less than man.
Comment by Debbie Morris on April 9, 2010 at 8:17am
Well based on the family proclamation, the fact that men are called the Patriarch of the home and get the final say if there is a disagreement, the fact that women are not allowed hold the priesthood and are expected to want to seal themselves to their husbands in temple ceremonies that mean that when they die and go to the celestial kingdom their husbands will become gods and they will be their wife eternally pregnant with his spirit children so that he can populate his own world to be god over...then yeah...also the fact that the young women of the church have lessons from a young age that grooms them to be "good mothers" and submissive wives... and the fact that Mormon women are encouraged to stay home and raise their families while the men work generally leaving them at the mercy of their husbands financially. What amazes me is that hardly any of them complain about it!
Comment by LarryW on April 9, 2010 at 8:09am
Thanks, I'll have to look into that further. Another question... From what I have read and learned about Mormons, one thing that really bothers me is the Male dominance in the Mormon church. Is this fact? I have noticed it at some family events that I have attended from the Mormon Men. The women seem to be submissive and not have a say in church matters. I realize this happens in other denominations as well, especially among the fundamentalists.
Comment by Debbie Morris on April 9, 2010 at 7:54am
Joseph Smith died in 1844 so it couldn't have been him...could have been the nephew...
Comment by LarryW on April 9, 2010 at 7:47am
Sorry... Let me rephrase that last comment. Masonic history says that he tried to start a clandestine Masonic Lodge in Illinois in the 1850's.

Q> To anyone's knowledge, was he ever convicted of a felony in the mid 1850's? Masonic history says that he was...
Comment by LarryW on April 9, 2010 at 7:39am
Thanks, Debbie. I guess my first question to the group would be regarding Joseph Smith. Let me say that I am a member of the Masonic Fraternity. I have heard a bit of Joseph Smith's history, from the Masonic point of view. I have also read his Bio. Q> To anyone's knowledge, was he ever convicted of a felony in the mid 1850's? Masonic history says that he was...
Comment by Debbie Morris on April 9, 2010 at 7:14am
welcome Larry, Hope you find what you are looking for. :)
Comment by LarryW on April 9, 2010 at 7:06am
Hello everyone and thank you starting this group. First off, I am NOT an ex-mo, as some put it, however, I am surrounded by Mormons. I actually have the Mormon religion to thank for my coming out as an Atheist. I have my stories to tell, like everyone else, but my main reason for joining this group is to get answers. I will be following this group intently in hopes of finding some of those answers.
Thanks again.
Comment by Al Jensen on March 26, 2010 at 10:00pm
Dear Utah ex-mo's. If you are young and sufficiently mobile, my advice for you is to leave Utah as soon as practicable. I left at the age of 19, thanks to the then compulsory military service (the draft). It was such an eye-opener. I met all kinds of people in the service from all over the U.S. and many foreign countries. I had a great introduction to Buddhism by being stationed in Thailand in 1954-55 - just at the unfortunate beginning of U.S. involvement in Vietnam. The biggest revelation (pardon the expression) was that most people are genuinely nice and good people. I was always raised to believe that Mo's were a cut above all others, but I made better friends outside Utah than I had in Utah. I returned to Salt Lake to finish my degree at the U of U, but left the summer after graduation for good. I love most of my Utah relatives, especially one sister and her family who also have left the church. But the psychological toll of living in that environment has caused a great deal of anguish for some of the young people in my family. If you are single and plan to marry and haven't met the one yet, please at least try to get away. Men especially are prone to let their wives decide how families worship, so it would be best to try to find someone like-minded. I'm not suggesting that joining the service provides a way out, but it is always a possibility if you are young enough and find you can tolerate military service. Also, the peace corps would be a possibility. Bless all of you who struggle.
Comment by Debbie Morris on March 26, 2010 at 6:31am
is there anyone else in Ireland on here?
 

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