I read Dialogue on occasion (I know, I know), as I can often find great articles that lay out devastating rational arguments against the church's claims and pronouncements. But this article has got me losing sleep. I, honest-to-reason, woke up at 2:30 AM the other day with multi-layered arguments swirling around my brain, unbidden, mounting a reply to this Nielsen fellow.

I loved the first 2/3 of the article and truly felt as if I had learned something important (medicine man, not a math guy). But then he had to spoil it by making the old "We really don't know as much as we think we do, and therefore Gawd really does exist and the church really is true."

My quick reply is that, non-computable numbers or not, the human edifices of mathematics, science, and engineering work. They put men on the moon and develop immunizations, they probe the universe and the quantum, etc. Mormonism, as an epistemology, does not work. It fails time and time again (Need we enumerate? Priesthood, polygamy, Lamanites, Book of Abraham, Kinderhook plates, ad nauseum). Sure, it makes people feel good. But so does heroin. And withdrawal is a beast!

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now I kinda want to get to this EVENTUALLY, but it's 20 pgs, so I'll have to get to it later.

However...if I judge a book by its cover, so to speak, I have to admit that this sounds like God of the gaps dressed up more nicely. "Because we don't know now (and perhaps we cannot ever completely know)...then God."
I counted at least four logical fallacies just skimming through this article... :/

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