Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

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Eco-Logical: A Group for Environmentalists

Eco-Logical is a group for anyone who cares about clean air, drinkable water, a sustainable economy, and environmental justice.

Location: The Irreplaceable Earth
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Tropical Rain Forest loss means you'll go hungry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 6 hours ago. 0 Replies

Greenland melt rate doubling

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Tuesday. 2 Replies

Methane, more scary than we thought

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Tuesday. 32 Replies

Another Positive Feedback we'd missed

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on Monday. 4 Replies

Negotiating Human Extinction

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 9. 6 Replies

signs of climate tipping points

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Dec 2. 26 Replies

Frack under the Ohio River

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Randall Smith Oct 2. 2 Replies

Carbon Hot Spots

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 29. 0 Replies

Rethinking the economics of CO2 emissions

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 19. 0 Replies

Canada's Northwest Territories burning six times more forest than usual

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 4. 2 Replies

Climate variability snuffing out

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Global surface cooling caused by Atlantic warming

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 25. 1 Reply

Antarctica melting twice as fast

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 23. 3 Replies

Methane Bomb

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Aug 21. 1 Reply

Abnormal Arctic

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Antarctic process melts Arctic

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jul 31. 1 Reply

Mass Extinction of Ocean Species soon to be Inevitable

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 26. 12 Replies

Scorched Earth Coming

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 11. 6 Replies

How to save our future

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 9. 2 Replies

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Comment by A Former Member on October 15, 2009 at 11:22am
Tell President Obama it's Time to Act on Climate Change

To: The President of the United States

Sponsored by: Alliance for Climate Protection

More than any other country, action taken by the United States to limit greenhouse gases and build a clean energy economy is needed to achieve a sustainable solution to our global climate crisis.

This December world leaders will gather in Copenhagen to negotiate a global response to climate change. As a world leader in greenhouse gas pollution as well as clean energy technology, the United States needs to take bold action by implementing comprehensive clean energy policies to curb emissions.

Nobel Peace Prize Winner and President Barack Obama has said that climate change is an urgent threat, and now is the time for him to lead the United States in confronting the climate crisis.

This is a chance for people around the world and in the United States to join together in telling President Obama that we want him to lead the United States in taking bold and significant action to reduce greenhouse gasses.

Time is running out, and our planet can't afford to wait.
Comment by A Former Member on October 15, 2009 at 10:58am
ENVIRONMENT -- COAL INDUSTRY SPENT $10 MILLION OVER PAST 18 MONTHS TO HIRE FIRM TIED UP IN SCANDAL: Politico reports today that the American Coalition for Clean Coal Energy (ACCCE) -- a leading coal industry front group -- spent nearly $10 million over the past 18 months on lobbying efforts that ran through a scandal-ridden lobbying firm. ACCCE hired the Hawthorn Group, which used some of its money to hire Bonner & Associates, a lobbying firm that runs astroturf campaigns. Bonner was recently caught in a scandal in which it admitted that an employee forged 13 letters sent to Congress, purporting to represent groups like the NAACP that supposedly supported coal interests. The Associated Press reports that ACCCE knew that Bonner's letters were forged, but Bonner didn't alert lawmakers until afterward. The forgeries scandal is simply the latest in a spree of bad behavior by Bonner & Associates. The firm was caught defrauding the U.S. government, was paid millions to shill on behalf of Big Tobacco, and teamed up with the drug industry's lobbying group PhRMA to scuttle prescription drug legislation. The Select Committee for Energy Independence and Global Warming is currently investigating ACCCE, Hawthorn, and Bonner. Jack Bonner, the president and founder of Bonner & Associates, and ACCCE head Steve Miller will testify before the committee on Thursday.

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Comment by Jaume on October 7, 2009 at 7:11am
Hilarious video on the hazards of industrial cattle farming. It's in French, but even if you don't understand the language, you should get at least 95% of the vid right. 'Abattoir' is French for 'slaughterhouse'.
Comment by A Former Member on October 3, 2009 at 8:01pm


Haven't read this, just passing the info along. - DG

Climate Cover-Up: The Crusade to Deny Global Warming

Starting in the early 1990s, three large American industry groups set to work on strategies to cast doubt on the science of climate change. Even though the oil industry’s own scientists had declared, as early as 1995, that human-induced climate change was undeniable, the American Petroleum Institute, the Western Fuels Association (a coal-fired electrical industry consortium) and a Philip Morris-sponsored anti-science group called TASSC all drafted and promoted campaigns of climate change disinformation.

The success of those plans is self-evident. A Yale/George Mason University poll taken late in 2008 showed that — 20 years after President George H.W. Bush promised to beat the greenhouse effect with the “White House effect” — a clear majority of Americans still say they either doubt the science of climate change or they just don’t know. Climate Cover-Up explains why they don’t know. Tracking the global warming denial movement from its inception, public relations advisor James Hoggan (working with journalist Richard Littlemore), reveals the details of those early plans and then tracks their execution, naming names and exposing tactics in what has become a full-blown attack on the integrity of the public conversation.

Leveraging four years of original research conducted through Hoggan’s website, DeSmogBlog.com, Hoggan and Littlemore documented the participation of lapsed scientists and ExxonMobil-funded think tanks. Then they analyzed and explained how mainstream media stood by — or in some cases colluded — while deniers turned a clear issue of science (and an issue for public safety) into a partisan argument that no one could win.

This book will open your eyes, it will raise your ire and, most especially, it will inspire you to take back the truth — to end the Climate Cover-up.
Comment by A Former Member on October 2, 2009 at 3:19pm


I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

-- Agent Smith, The Matrix
Comment by A Former Member on October 1, 2009 at 4:38pm
...why not complain about people being allowed to live in a flood hazard?

@Goodie: That's tough to know. I'm not sure how much power the gov has to tell people where to live. Here in Texas, up near the panhandle, is the area known as "tornado alley," obviously due to the large number of tornados that occur there. And yet, when you see these ppl on the news, standing there with their home destroyed and all their possessions gone, they seem to think it is a mark of courage and virtue to rebuild in the same spot, instead of moving to a safer location. They thank god that he has blessed them and that their family is safe, and yet they put their family back in the same kind of danger. (Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.) The next time it happens, and a child dies, the excuse is that "god called him/her home." In the mean time, the property insurance premiums go up for all Texans. It's whack!
Comment by Goodie Faithless on October 1, 2009 at 2:43am
I used to watch stuff about New Orleans on TV. Scientists knew it would flood before it did. Instead of complaining about the government's response, why not complain about people being allowed to live in a flood hazard? When guys on TV say that scientists think global warming getting really bad, it reminds me of New Orleans.
Comment by A Former Member on September 30, 2009 at 8:53am
@Johnny, did you get a chance to listen to the show? It is really about fracting. I agree that burning gas is a clean alternative, but its extraction is the problem, unfortunately.
Comment by Johnny on September 30, 2009 at 3:29am
I think natural gas (and biofuel for that matter) are at best transitory sources of energy. Ultimately, it will have to be geo-thermal, wind, solar, low-impact hydro.
Comment by A Former Member on September 29, 2009 at 5:22pm
The Story | Another Look at 'Clean' Energy

The natural gas industry is havinga moment in the sun. Domestic energy advocates like T. Boone Pickens are calling it the cleanest, cheapest, most abundant fuel we have.

Listen to the story here.
 

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