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Conservative Atheists & Agnostics

A place for right-of-center Atheists and Agnostics.

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Meeting Others

Started by Michael. Last reply by Sheri M Larsen Feb 21. 4 Replies

How would you go about meeting people with similar values?I ask this both in the general sense, and also regarding relationships.Dating is extremely hard.  It's very difficult to find any women who…Continue

Is it fair to treat everyone equally?

Started by Sheri M Larsen. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jan 24. 14 Replies

What is your experience with, or opinion of this?Continue

o boy, chik fil a

Started by damian. Last reply by Andrew Jan 10. 14 Replies

I admit that i haven't been following closely, but the whole thing disappoints me. I can't stand how conservatives get lumped in with the religious. I'm not sure what started this whole thing , "rahm…Continue

Does anyone else feel alone?

Started by Michael. Last reply by Michael Jan 7. 49 Replies

Being a conservative atheist is a case of being a double minority; it kind of puts one on the wrong side of pretty much everything. I've found it difficult to find anyplace where I fit in; obviously…Continue

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Comment by Andrew on September 1, 2012 at 3:43am

Does anyone have any data on what percentage of Atheists are conservative?

Comment by Matt Stath on August 27, 2012 at 8:39pm

Thank you, Robert Brown.  I've already found Neil deGrasse Tyson interesting for years and I've watched the video you posted.

Comment by Robert Brown on August 27, 2012 at 12:54pm

Here's a little clip to share with our liberal atheist counterparts everytime they claim the high ground on science.

Comment by James Yount on June 24, 2012 at 1:42am

Anyone who know me, knows that I'm not a liberal and not a supporter of the Clintons. However, listen to this interview and try to picture Obama in Clinton's place. Do you think the discourse would have been as informed and intelligent. Clinton, like his policies or not, was and is an intelligent and thoughtful man. If more of the democratic party were like him, then I would be infinitely happier with the state of our country.

Comment by James Yount on June 23, 2012 at 2:24pm

Comment by Chris Z on June 4, 2012 at 4:00pm

Jeanne, Yes, I agree.  In Afghanistan, I think we should have gotten rid of Hamid Karzai a long time ago.  In Iraq, well... Bipartisan support gave passage of a US Bill for strong consequences if Iraq didn't own up to the UN resolutions.  Then straight down party lines, the Dem leaders of the time began saying that they weren't present for the high profile intelligence high briefs as everyone else.  Intelligence officials to this day are saying, "Yes, they were present."  This and the politicization to come undermined much of the support for our mission.  We were justified going in along with the large coalition we assembled based on the fact that Saddam and his men did once gas the Kurds, and the intelligence up to that time throughout many independent intelligence offices across the world thought he was WMD capable.


We were great!  Then early on, the Marines actually captured Muqtada Al-Sadr after a huge battle.  We gave him to the Iraqi's to decide what to do with him at their request, also once again showing what great people we are.  They let him go and allowed him to join in on the political process in the country.

Also, our policy initially was to clear, capture, and release cities.  This also showed how great we are.  We later found that this wasn't working , I wonder why (perhaps all through this time the Dems outcries here back home sent signals of weakness to the decent Iraqi people, and served to embolden our enemies).

The surge was necessary.  It worked.  We changed our policy to clear, capture, and hold the areas.  This was a success.  We then handed off the areas piece by piece as the Iraqi military became more and more competent.

Very early on in the effort, there were rumors that the British weren't doing their job in securing the South from Iranian (Shiite) influence.  It was said that there were a bunch of sitters who were just going to wait the whole thing out until we left and in the meantime infiltrate the system.

I think that has occurred.  Everyone wants to know why it's taken so long and what has occurred.  It was political correctness that has won.  It was the dems via shouts of aggression and their political correctness that weakened our hand and efforts, along with of course mainly the strong Iranian influence and it's proxies in the whole region.

Having served in OIF III, while I'm upset at President Bush for not sticking up as strongly as Dick Cheney and Condolezza Rice, I'm pretty pissed to see what our very own did.

Of course, we shouldn't be the World Police for everyone, but China and Russia block all UN led activities and so coalitions are necessarily built outside the UN.

We shouldn't have been there for so long either, but the reason for that really lies with our inability to address the neighboring enemy allies quickly enough.  Our hands have been tied because the area is really that bad.  We've done great.  We need new leadership to try and turn the tied of the last 3 years.  Allen West and John Bolten are our men!!!

Comment by Jeanne Taylor on June 4, 2012 at 2:14pm

Chris, I am sick about Afghanistan, as well as Iraq.  But...it is ending up just as I feared it would in both countries.  Ever since our policy became to avoid victory, we have offered hope only to bug-out leaving worse despair and destruction among the betrayed people who sought liberty.

Comment by Nathan Ortberg on May 21, 2012 at 1:02am

I can't understand this nonsense about Ron Paul's foreign policy being dangerous. It makes absolutely zero sense. Keep eating up the war propaganda. It's just more profiteering. 

Does anyone understand how dangerous it would be to attack Iran? Do people realize Russia is piling troops along the northern border of Iran "awaiting an attack from the west"? Do you really want world war 3!? I keep seeing it's not conservative. Who cares? All that really implies is that it is not in line with the same ineffective foreign policy held by conservatives (liberals are no better) in the past. 

And jumping to the defense of Romney? Really? Why don't you just vote for Obama and let Ron Paul be the republican nominee and give America a chance at liberty? It would be the same race for president either way...Romney is no different than Obama depending on what day you talk to him. 

It really saddens me that people can not see that NOT trying to control the rest of the world is a reasonable and sound foreign policy. Has the propaganda really affected people so deeply that they are in constant fear? This is a self-destructive path. History is repeating as we speak and no one is paying attention. 

Comment by Chris Z on May 6, 2012 at 12:56pm

Welcome here Andrew.  Welcome here to all of those who are new.  This group has grown despite there not being a lot of activity here.  There is much more activity on a facebook group with a similar title just so everyone knows.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/48625003215/

Comment by Andrew on May 6, 2012 at 5:40am

New to the group. Glad to see so many other conservative Atheists out there.

 

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