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If you had cancer.

If you know someone with cancer.

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We won't pray.  We won't blame gods.  We won't give credit to gods.  

We face the diagnosis and know, it is what it is.  

To the extent that we can, we will define our own course.

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Cancer changes lives.

We have to deal with medical profession.

We have to deal with medications.

We have to deal with new discomfort and pain.

We have to create dignity, where there is indignity.

We have to deal with family members, friends, coworkers, and strangers, in a changed way.

We resolve to go forward with strength, resilience, purpose, pride, and integrity.

We define ourselves. Cancer does not define us.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2013 at 5:01pm

Daniel, the Sourwood tree is so beautiful. It will be a nice reminder of progress being made. 

Comment by Daniel W on September 4, 2013 at 8:36pm

Now coming up on the 6-month point after "Day Zero" - the day my cancer made itself known. 

I had the afternoon off and went to a local nursery, bought a tree to plant as a marker of this event.  I want to see it take root, leaf out in the spring and bloom next year.

My selection is native to the US but not to the Pacific NW - Sourwood tree.

This is a photo of Sourwood tree from the web.  They have flowers with nectar for honey, and red leaves in fall

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 27, 2013 at 8:26pm

Patricia, I just want to let you know much I enjoy Tim Wheater's music. A very real calming experience. 

This is just one of the pieces I have on a playlist 

Michael Hoppe & Tim Wheater - The Lovely Land

Here is the playlist:

Music Tim Wheater by Joan Denoo

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 24, 2013 at 6:32pm
Patricia, I have much to learn from you. Especially your spirit. "Never futurize!" Count the pluses! You really do make me laugh.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 24, 2013 at 2:31pm

Daniel, I laughed when you wondered if my counseler offered prayer. She asked me if I were a believer and I responded that I am not only a non-beliver, I am an anti-theist. Her insight was to ask a very simple question, "What have you lost because you have a life threatening disease, cancer?" I had not thought of losses, however, upon reflection I was so deeply moved, I started to cry. I had no idea that notion had any influence over my emotions. I agree with you, Daniel, life is sweeter, more precious and more in the moment, rather than in the past or the future. I/we have this moment, and we can choose to be present, aware, and in possession of that difficult to pronounce word from Buddhism, "equanimity". It is about noon, I am still in the garden with the ambient temperature of 72 degrees F ... perfect for being with the critters and flowers and aromas. I am not yet driven in by the heat. 'Autumn Joy' sedum have a faint tinge of red/orange and will soon be turning. Phlox 'Davidii' glow in full bloom with not a blossom drop yet. The yellow climber rose presents me with a new blast of color and fragrance, Gold Finch cluster at the feeder and Fat Tail Squirrel sits in the strawberry bed looking at me as he eats a huge, plump berry. I cut back about half the raspberry vines and can clearly see where I stopped. I have a nice chore for another day. Dear friends of Godless in the Garden, it is nice to read your comments, enjoy sharing our lives with each other, and hope each one of you has a splendid weekend. I am in paradise, known as My Back Yard. 

Just one more thought Daniel, before I sign off, your calm may be infectious in the work place where "everyone is always overwhelmed and stressed." Perhaps we offer a gift that our loved ones and co-workers need to experience. In any event, your calmness calms me and I value that. 

Comment by Daniel W on August 24, 2013 at 12:13pm


I hope the counseling isn't offering prayer.  I think you would have mentioned that.

Mindy, thank you.  That means a lot to me.  So glad you are here.

Working on another blog post.  That helps me too, sorting out my thoughts.  But even yesterday, I thought, I'm doing pretty well, even at work.  And everyone is always overwhelmed and stressed there.  Maybe it's gone to my brain.  (dark humor there - I know better).

Comment by Daniel W on August 22, 2013 at 10:25pm


I'm very happy you are back on track!

It's bizarre, but in some ways I think I'm happier now than before I was diagnosed with cancer.  Life is more precious.  If I'm doing something - like working - it's more because I choose to do so, not because of long long long term benefits.  There are challenges.  Cancer has to mean some grieving.  But there are moments I think, I'm doing pretty good.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 22, 2013 at 4:44pm

Cancer Care Northwest in Spokane provides counseling for cancer patients and family. It has been several years since I had training in counseling and knew my skills are out of date. With just a few minutes I was able to see my blind spots, which for me was grief work. I plan to return for more sessions and then upgrade my training. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 18, 2013 at 1:41pm
Daniel, I am very glad you are not depressed; that black hole can devastate even the best trained people.
That tiny little frog with a mighty voice just joined me on the patio and he croaks a raucous melody that is almost primordial. Can't be down with his noble efforts. The yellow jackets are especially thick this summer. The old timers say that our cool spring and hot summer tends to produce an overabundance of the stingers. Dominic and Spaz, Laura's family pets, nip at them constantly. We observe no sign they have been bitten yet, even as they spit out of their mouths stunned bees.
Comment by Daniel W on August 18, 2013 at 1:12pm


Thanks for talking about your music.

I used to listen to a lot - favorites were classical, old rhythm & blues, and smatterings of other stuff.      

Then, I don't know what happened.  I lost my taste for music.  That seems almost not human, but it's true.

I do listen to a lot of audiobooks.  The tenor of the voice almost as important as the content.  Maybe that replaces music for me.


I will look into your links.

I don't think I'm depressed.  I am glad that you are doing better, and thinking positively.  If you are doing well, that is what matters.


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