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We face the diagnosis and know, it is what it is.  

To the extent that we can, we will define our own course.

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Cancer

Cancer changes lives.

We have to deal with medical profession.

We have to deal with medications.

We have to deal with new discomfort and pain.

We have to create dignity, where there is indignity.

We have to deal with family members, friends, coworkers, and strangers, in a changed way.

We resolve to go forward with strength, resilience, purpose, pride, and integrity.

We define ourselves. Cancer does not define us.

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Transmissible Cancer

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by theburningmonk Apr 10. 1 Reply

Leukemia spreads in the ocean among soft-shell clams. This is the fourth example of natural cancer transmission in animals.…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2013 at 2:45pm

Mindy, There are so many things over which we have no control. Learning to live with uncertainty and chaos takes real effort. Years ago I read "Chaos Theory" by James Gleick. 

"Chaos theory studies the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions, an effect which is popularly referred to as the butterfly effect. Small differences in initial conditions (such as those due to rounding errors in numerical computation) yield widely diverging outcomes for such dynamical systems, rendering long-term prediction impossible in general.[1]"

~ Wikipedia

I also read "The Essence of Chaos" by Edward
Lorenz

He explains the "butterfly effect" 


These ideas came through Ed Lindaman, president of Whitworth University, who helped me with my thesis, "Toward a theory of Family Violence."

I don't know if these ideas will help at all, and I offer them simply because they helped me live with situations over which I have no control. 

I do hope you have a great day, just overflowing with contentment, joy and peace. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2013 at 2:44pm

Mindy, I know your condition is chronic, with little or no permanent relief. Your situation is much harder than mine. I know there is an end in sight and I just have to tough through to the final goal line. I assume you have cut out all the obvious stuff, such as food allergies, things like that. Having an anxiety disorder doesn't help you any at all. 

Having children the ages of yours is not an easy period. I remember it all too well. My three children all turn 50, Cary's was Sept 8 and Craig and Laura on Feb. 21, 2014. They each had bumpy times along the way and have now settled into strong, decent, responsible, dependable, independent life styles. I never thought I would live to see that happen. 

They all know there are going to be rough times ahead with political and economic strife. They work to be self sufficient and reliant in ways that downturns will have fewer effects on them than those who do not realize what is happening and are not preparing. The fun thing is, they each are simplifying their lives, finding creative and satisfying ways to find deep pleasure and raise their kids with solid values of care and compassion and commitment to living lightly on the Earth. They each have commitments to their communities, 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 15, 2013 at 2:06pm

Daniel, I am just now getting so I can look at food. This morning I fixed a normal breakfast and was able to eat most of it and some of it tasted good, the rest not so good. I continue to lose weight and that is a good thing. My normal desire is delicious gourmet food ... YUCK! So a simple slice of sourdough English muffin with a thin layer of natural, unsweetened jam, a dollop of vanilla yogurt topped with flax seeds is about all I can get down in the AM. A banana or apple or avaca is doable at lunch, and for dinner a cup of homemade chicken stock, or a scrambled egg, and a piece of fresh green is about my limit. My system still turns it into pond slime. I don't know how long it will take to get those four chemicals out of my system, and I can say I am feeling a wee bit stronger. The Herceptin and radiation have had no negative effect on me at all, it is just purging my body of all those chemicals and that will take a bit more time.  

My mental and emotional state remains active and positive. We laugh a lot, which helps keep me focused. I make playlists everyday on topics that interest me and they entertain me as I go horizontal. I can't read because my eyesight is blurred and my eyes and nose water constantly, coating my face with tears and phlegm, creating a stinging rash.  That condition is normal and should end when my body is purged. 

All this misery tells me the chemicals are working and I just need to let them do their thing. Nothing, so far, has ben unbearable, just unpleasant. Kind of like having a baby. 

Well, enough about me, how are you doing Daniel? Your gardening progress enriches my day, pleasing me to be included in your efforts.

I'm off to the garden to sit with the critters until it gets too hot, then horizontal with playlists. I hope your day is just splendid, full of joy and gratitude to be alive.  

Comment by Daniel W on September 15, 2013 at 1:20pm

Joan, is your system starting to head back to normal after your last chemo?  Taste buds starting to settle?  Any foods tolerable for you?

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 9, 2013 at 4:22pm
Awesome!
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 9, 2013 at 3:57pm
Patricia, this horrid group o ailments saps energy and joy! What do you do that brings you joy?
Comment by Daniel W on September 7, 2013 at 7:38pm

Joan, I know you are glad that was your last big chemo!  You got through it!  Good for you! 

Now for some healing and recuperating.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2013 at 7:24pm

My last BIG chemo on Wed. was rough on me. I spent most all day Thurs. and Fri. in bed and felt much better this morning. Nothing would stay inside me, and that added to my weakness. Even though I still feel weak, my spirits have returned. Cary walked to the store and brought me some mineral water this afternoon and that tasted so good. He just fixed me a tuna sandwich and I think that might stay inside me for a while. 

Hopefully, you are able to rest when you feel like it Daniel. I find sleep is the only thing that helps during these hard times. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 7, 2013 at 7:20pm
Daniel, this is a beautiful sourwood! You will just love it. My cousin in Enumclaw, WA. has one as big as his house, and it is so healthy. I like the way the flowers fall into a nice cluster.

So very sorry to learn of your feeling down this week and having a disrespectful oncology pharmacist. I so wish you had access to a facility such as mine. They offer great support and encouragement.
Comment by Daniel W on September 7, 2013 at 5:37pm

Here's the tree. It's planted now. A bit awkward in its youth, but should fill in and grow nicely over time.

Felt kind of down this week, and tired. And the oncology pharmacist had a chip on his shoulder and was amazingly disrespectful for no apparent reason other than I was a human being with a question. Well, everyone has bad days.

Thanks for the positive comments, you all make it better. :)

 

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