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Location: Canada
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National events

This October in Montreal, Canada the 16th annual AAI convention

Atheists Without Borders
AAI-HC 2010 Convention


Local hosts: Atheist Freethinkers and CFI Montreal

It is here! The most anticipated North American atheist convention of the year. With fresh line of speakers and plethora of entertainment, you sure don't want to miss this event.

Join us in Montreal for AAI's annual North American convention, "Atheists Without Borders." This theme expresses our vision of an international movement, going beyond political and cultural borders, uniting atheists and humanists in one virtual nation defined by our commitment to freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, human rights, critical thought, science and reason. This event will be AAI's first North American convention outside the United States and the first in collaboration with Humanist Canada, a national organization.

Our roster of esteemed speakers includes both American icons of freethought and outstanding Canadian and European scholars and activists. The three-day convention is centred around more than twenty workshops as well as several plenary sessions, addressing issues of keen interest to nonbelievers, such as religion-State separation, secularism, the history of freethought, the defence of education against religious encroachment and strategies for combatting fundamentalism -- in particular islamofascism. Join us as well in congratulating this year's Richard Dawkins Award recipient, Susan Jacoby, author of Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism.


Other things that might interest Canadians

National and Provincal Groups and Forums (click for expanded list)

Humanist Canada
Centre for Inquiry Canada
The Canadian Secular Alliance

Other Canadian groups on Nexus

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/northernfreethinkers

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/britishcolumbiaatheists

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/atheistsinalberta

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/torontoatheists

http://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/TheGoodAtheist

If I have missed some please let me know

Canadian Bloggers, Youtubers, Podcast, etc...

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Comment by Michel Poisson on October 19, 2010 at 2:44am
Rudy: "If I want to put a store sign in Cantonese or German, it should be my right...no many may be able to read it or understand it, but no one should be able to tell me I can't."

Another misconception! You can, as long as there is also a French translation. And that needs to be done if our French enclave is to survive Anglo-American (ROC) cultural invasion.
Comment by TNT666 on October 18, 2010 at 7:59pm
Personally I feel everyone has a right to adhere to whatever culture they desire.

That right there just demonstrated your value of culture is close to nil. Culture is NOT about YOU doing whatever YOU want. It's about a relatively homogenous group of people UNITING under agreed upon cultural values such as feminism, dignity, legal system, laicity, freedom of sexual activities, etc. There is not a single Human Individual freedom ROC has over Québec. And yes, Québécois in general agree that commerce are not individuals and the rights of commerce should be limited and managed according to a society's objectives. ROC love to bring up «commercial» freedoms in these disagreements, but that's because most of ROC's culture is USA culture. Most anglophone ROC residents know 10 times more about USA culture than ROC culture. That's because Canadians are sooooo polite, accepting any foreign whim shoved down our throats «because we're so nice», reducing funding to NFB, to CBC, etc. Anglo ROC has been cutting cultural funding for years, to the benefit of commerce and the «American way». Thank you but I'll continue saying Breakfast/dinner/supper.
Comment by TNT666 on October 18, 2010 at 7:38pm
To not understand that Québec is a haven to anti-religiosity and feminism simply means you do not know Québec. Out of my 40 some years, 27 in Québec, 9 in Caribbean and Florida, rest in ROC and having been raised in a English speaking home with a French hating mother, in a French community, let me tell you I've experienced all sides of the debate. In life, if you're lucky, you come to see that culture is the result of what you fight for. Did you know for example that on Québec has the largest 'cultural' output of any franco nation? (books, papers, magazines, movies, etc) It's a pretty wonderful state of being when you find that a lot of what you've been fighting for is coming true. But some of you havn't had the luck of experiencing that socially-culturally. People have got to stand up and fight, and that's what Québécois do.

I swear tho when I hear an English Canadian ask «what about native rights» well right back at you man... Québec was undergoing territorial land claims for first nations long ago. The Bay James agreement with the Cree was the FIRST such agreement ever made. The Cree made a lot of money with the Bay James agreement, and they got educations, became lawyers and economists and took charge of their only life much before the ROC. And since Québec had no residential schools, the FEDS sent many Québec first nations people to Ontario. Bet you didn't know that the first sovereignty proposals included sovereingty for First Nations... not saying Québec has a perfect record involving First Nations, but before leaving Québec borders, I had never seen a drunk native or one shooting up in a back alley... My home town is squarely in between two «Federal Indian reserves» so I grew up with First Nations issues and support every single one of their actions, as do most of my friends in Québec. So lets start a discussion «atheist Canadians against bilingualism» that's one thing we agree on here.
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on October 18, 2010 at 6:47pm
Yes, Michel, that kinda was my point...and it obviously isn't just Albertans. Apparently, some have a little confusion with feminism and bigotry when it comes to a persons language as well.
Personally I feel everyone has a right to adhere to whatever culture they desire...as long as it's not forced on them. If I want to put a store sign in Cantonese or German, it should be my right...no many may be able to read it or understand it, but no one should be able to tell me I can't. And as far as it goes, it shouldn't matter who or where you were born, you should be able to observe/practice whatever culture you want....even if you're a white boy and decide to follow black culture (as long as it's done in good taste).

And I'm sorry to say it, but since you brought up the bigotry thing, that's exactly what many Canadians think a lot of french Quebec is (bigoted). They think that way, because they get the impression the Quebec government is taking too many rights away from other peoples and cultures. And to say Quebec has to fight fire with fire, won't sway many a opinion.
And in case you're wondering, yes, I also feel (especially here in Alberta) that many are very biased towards Quebec...which is why (believe it or not) I've gotten into many an argument defending Quebec as well.
Comment by Michel Poisson on October 18, 2010 at 5:42pm
"I live in Alberta, and many here view Quebecoise as a religion."

Albertans can't make the difference between religion and language?
Comment by Michel Poisson on October 18, 2010 at 5:39pm
Et Wayne, Je parles et j'écris l'anglais au moins aussi bien que toi, je participe à la mondialisation autant sinon plus que toi et si tu t'intéresses un tant soit peu à l'impact des languages sur la cognition, tu va comprendre les avantages d'apprendre d'autres langues humaine. Ça élargit l'esprit bigot.
Comment by Michel Poisson on October 18, 2010 at 5:36pm
Hi Wayne,

I see you've never been to Montreal's West Island, youl'll find English police there. In Cree and Inuit communities, you also have Cree and Inuit speaking peacekeepers. Nobody can tell you why not because it exists.

If the French factor bugs you, just avoid it. If you'd rather have your country as uniligual English speaking, you can have it. It should quell your misery s bit.

And yes I tend to be self-serving when dealing with bigotry.
Comment by Wayne Wilson on October 18, 2010 at 4:56pm
well said rudy. i wonder why we don't have english police in quebec? i wonder why we don't have ojibway language police? weren't they here first? shouldn't ojibway be a language of canada, too? and could anyone tell me why not?
someone had the gall to wish me 'happy misery.' how nice of them. no, my country does not torture me, as they stated. these assumptions are very self-serving and not very accurate.
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on October 18, 2010 at 4:36pm
Btw, for the record I have mixed feelings over the "french issue", but the one thing I do have a strong opinion on is the "apple and oranges" argument. To tie Quebec with feminism or someone's statement to religion is childish and insulting. I live in Alberta, and many here view Quebecoise as a religion. I will argue against that as much as the reverse. The 2 have nothing to due with each other and is a VERY obvious attempt at insulting. It is the same argument fallacy Glenn Beck does (and no, I am in no way implying any of you even have remotely the same views as him. He's just the only "famous" person I can think of at the moment that uses the whole "if you do/say this you must be a nazi/communist" argument).

Sorry, just one of my "pet peeves" and I see it on this site often. Never been one for name calling (and yes the "feminism" comparison is too, because it makes the obvious implication that "if you don't agree with me, you don't believe in feminist rights". Maybe you can tie it to gay or black rights too? It's pure bullshit.
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on October 18, 2010 at 2:44pm
O.K., guess I don't understand then...to me feminism is about equal rights in that women should be allowed the same jobs, treated with respect, be treated in the eyes of the law the same as men, etc. I never seen feminism as being a movement where women expected to be treated differently than men. It would appear some Quebecoise want just the opposite...to be recognized as being separate and treated differently.

My point is ALL cultures grow and evolve and the reality is (like it or not) we live in a global community (not just in terms of money).

And I would also like to stress that I VERY much agree, you shouldn't let other cultures dictate what you value. That's what Canada is all about and if you feel some are doing it to you, make sure you don't use the same tactic and do that to anyone else then. Just like English are not the only culture that lives in Canada, French is not the only culture that exists in Quebec.
 

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