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Comment by Charley Reynolds on April 21, 2009 at 6:00pm

well all in all, they all have the same "function" my friend. Control. When you say nonsense about masons, they are the ones that carry out the will of the elitists. They dont off their own for talking about where their "secret tree house" is... I understand if you think im bats**t crazy, and for awhile I disregarded it also. I'm just saying there are waaay too many coincidences for this to be assumed "paranoia".

So if you wanna leave it be that's fine with me sir. This discussion board isnt about that anyway, and that is fair.

I wonder whether here in the US or in other countries where people struggle with poverty and being under-educated, we cant assume this just happens because the people do not have the means. Keeping people under-educated and brainwashed with religion will always be the suppressing "opiate for the masses". Do you agree?

Comment by Ralph Dumain on April 21, 2009 at 4:35pm

To be fair, I took a look at the Zeitgeist movement web site. There are ideas in there worth considering. I did not see any reference to any nonsense about the masons or astrotheology, so I'm hoping there's no connection to the Z.M. I disagree also with the notion that the Abrahamic religions are uniquely horrendous. An argument can be made that Hinduism is much worse.

Comment by Ralph Dumain on April 21, 2009 at 4:17pm

Secret masonic conspiracy? Astrotheology? You've got to be kidding me.

Comment by Charley Reynolds on April 21, 2009 at 3:52pm

I find resistance alot with this, but what is crackpot occult about this?

I would like to know where my logic is flawed with this, and ill talk about whatever it is you would like to talk about here so I dont offend anyone. I would like an explanation to my "crackpot occult world views" please.

Comment by Ralph Dumain on April 21, 2009 at 12:46pm

I have no time or patience for any more crackpot occult world views. I pursue political topics in other groups and blogs. My conceptual takes on race and ethnicity can be found in the group "Conversations on Race, Ethnicity, and Culture".

Comment by Charley Reynolds on April 20, 2009 at 11:28pm

I totally agree with you. And let me state that I was not making an assumption about the state or "goal" of this group, I just wanted my stance to be let known.

So with that out of the way, the reason why I discuss the monetary system is because that is (amungst religion) one of the biggest problems we face in living in a "socialized" society. People think having socialized systems means communism... This is thanks to the masons and the media that they influence.. People only know there god on the TV, and I think its time we force people to see what they dont want to see. That is what zeitgeist will do. It breaks down Astrotheology and its underlying roots in all abrahamic/judaochristian religions.. You have to watch to fully understand Ralph. Please watch it and let me know what you think.

Comment by Ralph Dumain on April 20, 2009 at 10:51pm

You're on the right track, young man. Never heard of the zeitgeist movement, though: I know the meaning of the word, but I can't imagine any politics that could be associated with it. The goal of this group is not to maintain divisions based on skin color, but to overcome them based on a realistic assessment of social reality. I'm not sure what you are saying about the monetary system, but the basic nature of the money economy needs to be called into question: Obama's attempts to stabilize it, feeding yet more undeserved money to the corporate bloodsuckers while the rest of the population--and not just the so-called middle class"--is being decimated, only exposes the need to overturn the entire system.

Comment by Charley Reynolds on April 20, 2009 at 4:19pm

Human life started in africa, atleast we have staggering evidence supporting this. We are all of the same people, only developed to our environments differently depending on where our ancestors ancestors (etc etc) decided to move to. People are people, and we all have the ability to do great things, or to do horrible things. So what am I ranting about? the fact that our establishments encourage us to stay divided.

Our monetary system and the establishments set forth are the reason why no one trusts anyone, or why we think everyone is out to get us. How can we ALL be atheists, yet still divide ourselves based on the melanin in our skin (correct spelling of melanin?), or lack there of.
I dunno, guess just wonder why we are divinding into other "races" is all..


Children only know what they see. I grew up in a predominatly white area (Georgia, Vermont) and had one black friend. Him and his family had the hardest time growing up because they were a minority.. I dont know if "lack of exposure" to people of other cultures is the main reason, and/or a combination of that and indoctrinated ideals of racism and non acceptance of any peoples outside of what is comfortable of them... Its disturbing, but I believe that through our evolution as a species, race will be something long forgotten or even thought about really (unleess it was for some sort of research I suppose that was un biast and non destructive or hurtful)... So now taking a turn without signaling, How many people here know about the Zeitgeist movement?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1543831119879192379

Comment by Ralph Dumain on April 20, 2009 at 3:57pm

Fair enough! At some point, I will start a discussion on biology, culture, history, and metaphysics to straighten out the ideological issues that surface whenever these matters are discussed.

Comment by Dave Myers on April 20, 2009 at 3:33pm

.... let 'us' connect - them , in a more historically , correct / true / and honest fashion ... shall we ? I think then , the rest takes care of it 'self ... (smile) .

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