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Permalink Reply by thomas smith on August 28, 2011 at 4:42pm

well spoken, and i agree mostly with you

But I think the issue of ethnic conflicts( race) have to be analyzed in the context that they happen

as you pointed out, Modern and semi-modern examples of "racism" abound. A dead Kurd looks a lot like a dead Turk. A dead Hutu looks a lot like a dead Tutsi. Serb/Croat/Bosnian.  these examples are not the same as  americas problem  with blacks. the general disdain for blacks that is communicated to every immigrant group is based on white society's degradation of blacks, not because of long time war and competition (except genetic lol), or past injustices perpetuated by blacks, i.e. there is no material   (physical), or religious reason for black hatred, where as other ethnic conflicts almost always have some material / physical, religious  reason, no matter how antiquated , basis for the conflict

Permalink Reply by Madison Burnett on August 28, 2011 at 5:08pm

Very well spoken (typed) Thanks for your input.

Permalink Reply by Sentient Biped on August 28, 2011 at 11:01pm

thanks back. it's an interesting an very worthwhile topic.

Permalink Reply by Madison Burnett on August 31, 2011 at 11:21pm

Yeah it is. It's something that my mother and I talk about whenever we're bored and there's nothing else to discuss, or if she's going on one of her rather pessimistic views, although I do have to say that I have gotten her to agree that progress has been made and that she should look forward to it

Permalink Reply by Navitta Nelson on August 29, 2011 at 3:02pm

There has been progress since Jim Crow.  But I disagree, that his mom's viewpoint is somewhat outdated.  I just think people hide it now, more than ever.

 

During Jim Crow, people were protected "so to speak" and could outright say things like "I don't hire Ni%$3s, Blacks or what have you.  The Klan was protected, back in the day.  Most Judges wouldn't convict Whites of killing Blacks, back then.

 

But now, it's not politically correct to state those types of opinions.  And there are laws against it.  It's hidden.  One of my White friends told me that he thought racism was a dying thing until Obama made it into office.  He was shocked at the things he heard his peers say within their own circle.  People he thought were above and beyond being racist/prejudice.  He, himself, told me don't be fooled.  He now realized that many White folks hide their racist feeling, but for some, Obama was the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak.

 

Matter of fact, statistics show White Supremacist (sp?) groups on the rise!  Within the US.

 

I try to be optomistic but at the same time be realistic.

 

 

Permalink Reply by Navitta Nelson on August 29, 2011 at 3:06pm

http://http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/11/white_power_usa_the_ri...

 

Since President Obama’s election, there’s been a surge in hate crimes, political murders and assassination threats in this country. Right-wing militias are on the rise in several states, and high rates of unemployment have further stoked anger against racial minorities and recent immigrants. Independent filmmakers Rick Rowley and Jacquie Soohen go inside the white nationalist movement to file an exclusive report. [includes rush transcript]...

 

I found this, didn't get to read it all, I'm at work on a break.  But, thought I would share.

Permalink Reply by Madison Burnett on August 31, 2011 at 11:24pm

Thanks for your input I'll check that out.

Permalink Reply by Chazley Tillman on September 1, 2011 at 3:35am

As far as being swept under the rug............I believe so. I live in the south and racism is very present among white people and black people. I see more racial slurs from blacks than I do whites, but whites tend to slide their comments in thinking that it wouldn't be noticed. I've met people who believe that racism isn't alive and I think it's because they are sincerely oblivious or ignorant. Most people are racist without knowing they are and I think that's where it hurts. I think we have made great progress with racism, but honestly I think we can do better. I believe people are more aware now than they were years ago, they just need someone to feed them the right information.

Permalink Reply by Madison Burnett on September 7, 2011 at 9:31pm

Here is my question to you. Is the right information something that should be taught en masse, or is it something that we should just teach to our children and hope that word of mouth and action will help it spread that way?

Permalink Reply by Secular Forces 2013 on October 2, 2011 at 9:23am

there's no such thing as race, it's a social construct.. ? well that's what she
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Meliss
said.

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