Aussie, Kiwi & South Pacific Atheists

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Aussie, Kiwi & South Pacific Atheists

A group for networking and friendship between atheists in the Australian/New Zealand/South Pacific region, and for discussion of political and religious topics relevant to these regions.

Members: 347
Latest Activity: Oct 31

Aussie, Kiwi and South Pacific Atheists

This group is hosted by Richard J and Chrys Stevenson


Another High Court Challenge Against the National School Chaplaincy Program

Website: http://www.highcourtchallenge.com

Breaking News! After successfully challenging the Commonwealth government in the High Court of Australia over funding for the National School Chaplaincy Scheme, Ron Williams is to take them on again.  In an attempt to circumvent the High Court ruling, the government has passed some extremely questionable legislation which tears at the heart of parliamentary democracy and public accountability.  Williams has consulted with his crack legal team and the decision has been made today (Saturday, 7 July) to mount another challenge.

For more information see here:  

http://thatsmyphilosophy.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/its-on-williams-to-return-to-the-high-court-on-chaplaincy-issue/

Mounting a High Court challenge is extremely expensive and Ron Williams is just an average, suburban Dad.  If all of us who care about a secular, democratic Australia can chip in as much as we can, it will help enormously.  Please consider donating at:  

http://www.highcourtchallenge.com/

This is your chance to be a part of making Australian Constitutional history!


Embiggen Books - Your Australian Atheist/Skeptical Bookshop

Embiggen Books, an Australian bookstore devoted to promoting science, philosophy, rationalism and skepticism is now on Little Lonsdale Street, Melbourne. Warren Bonett and Kirsty Bruce of Embiggen are also passionate and active members of the atheist and skeptical communities.

Australian Atheist Issues

For new members, if you want to get a grasp of some of the issues effecting atheists in Australia, you might like to take a look at the Atheist Nexus (Australia) submission on "Freedom of Religion and Belief in the 21st Century" made to the Australian Human Rights Commission early last year. It's long, but easy reading, and worth spending some time on. A report, using information compiled from submissions, should be released later this year.

Atheist Meetup Groups - Australia

If you'd like to meet up with some local atheists, there's no better way than joining your local Atheist Meetup, Skeptics, or Freethought Groups:

Adelaide Atheists
Ballarat Atheists
Brisbane Atheists
Canberra Social Skeptics
Melbourne Atheists
Launceston Skeptics
Macarthur Atheists (Macarthur Region, Sydney (NSW)
Perth Atheists
Perth Skeptics
Sunshine Coast Atheists
Sydney Atheists
Sydney Freethinkers
Western Sydney Freethinkers
Wollongong Skeptics Society

Have we missed your meetup group? Just let me know and I'll add it in.

Discussion Forum

Question from a visitor.

Started by Ted E Bear. Last reply by Chrys Stevenson Jan 17, 2013. 6 Replies

Naughty corner for not attending R.E? Yes, this is in NZ folks!!!

Started by Therese Monteath-Carr. Last reply by Blamer on twitter Dec 10, 2012. 3 Replies

Pell v Dawkins: this Monday

Started by Phillip A. Ellis. Last reply by Alice Apr 17, 2012. 3 Replies

Any Hamiltonian skeptics out there?

Started by Leela Moses Nov 16, 2011. 0 Replies

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Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 8, 2010 at 1:49am
Marquez Comelab of the Progressive Atheists, Victoria, has asked me if Atheist Nexus (Australia) would like to add our name to a video he has made in support of a secular Australia. Personally, I can see no reason why not, and I have given him permission to add my name (as an individual supporter) to the closing section of the video. However, Atheist Nexus Australia is not 'mine' but yours. So if anyone has any objections, let me know. I'll give it until Monday, 8 July before getting back to Marquez. If you'd like to add your name to the video as an individual supporter, contact marquez at reasonism dot org .

Comment by WiggidyGirl on July 7, 2010 at 12:25am
I've sent him an email asking if he'd like to respond.
Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 7, 2010 at 12:06am
Thanks Wiggidy - that's what I feared.
Comment by WiggidyGirl on July 6, 2010 at 11:15pm
They would be interesting questions. I can ask him if he's interested in talking to you.

I will tell you that my brother would be kind and understanding and wouldn't push his beliefs on anyone but would probably tell the teenage boy (if he were asked what is the right thing according to Christianity) that according to God homosexuality is a sin, and he would likely support the teenage girl but advise (if he were asked) that abortion is wrong.
Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 6, 2010 at 10:37pm
I'd be interested to know what he would say to a teenage boy who approached him about having a sexual attraction to other boys, or to a teenage girl who was pregnant and wanted to talk about her options, including abortion. I'd also be interested to know what is the point of being a chaplain if you are not allowed to evangelise. Surely a chaplain who is not allowed to share the gospel offers no more to school children than any other unqualified adult - unless there is an argument that Christians (even without being able to evangelise) are able to offer better friendship and advice to teenagers than secular Australians or people of other faiths?
Comment by WiggidyGirl on July 6, 2010 at 10:31pm
My brother is a chaplain at a TAFE in NSW, not sure if that's what you're after?
Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 6, 2010 at 10:26pm
I'm planning a blog post on chaplains in Australian state schools. If you or any of your friends or contacts have information about evangelising by chaplains in Australian state schools, I'd appreciate your stories. I'm at avalonbythelake at yahoo dot com dot au . My blog is at: http://thatsmyphilosophy.wordpress.com
Comment by CaptainCook on July 6, 2010 at 9:50pm
One of the many comments following the article linked to by Luke:

S. Khan of Sydney Posted at 10:41 AM July 05, 2010

As a Muslim I am particularly amused that such a minority group as HT gets such a strong voice in the media, and more than a little annoyed that the majority of Muslims are put in a position of having to defend their faith as a result of it. In any case, the Quran teaches me that so long as I am not prevented to practice my faith, I must respect the laws of the country in which I live. In Australia, I have the freedom to believe in Allah, to pray five times a day, to give charity to the poor, to fast during the month of Ramadan, and to make Hajj (Pilgrimage) to Mecca. There are my Five Pillars of Islam covered! What a wonderful country in which each individual is able to exercise CHOICE, just as Allah intended!!


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/islamist-leader-burhan-hanif-tells-...


The danger to democracy comes from extremism and all ideologies/religions contain such people.

Sadly, I do not believe humankind is going to let go of its tendency to primitive fantasy any time soon. Billions believe this nonsense.
Comment by WiggidyGirl on July 6, 2010 at 9:19pm
If you read the comments to the article posted by Luke, you will see that there are a lot of comments from moderate muslims condemming the group and saying that Hizb ut-Tahrir doesn't represent all Muslims, (or "True" Islam, whatever that might be). Only 500 people out of over 340,000 Muslims in Australia (or over 180,000 Muslims in NSW) attended the conference.
Comment by Фелч Гроган on July 6, 2010 at 6:43am
What a surprise - they're from Britain. Amazing. Syria, Libya, Yemen, all on our terrorist tourist watch lists, all with organisations like Hizb ut-Tahrir strictly outlawed. Yet Britain is OK and welcomes them with open arms.

What's it going to take for the rocket scientists at ASIO and it's inspector Plod counterparts to finally do the sums and realise that virtually all of the post-9/11 terrorism incidents are intimately associated with British Islamist organisations and have bugger all to do with the states we're told to fear?
 

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