Aussie, Kiwi & South Pacific Atheists

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Aussie, Kiwi & South Pacific Atheists

A group for networking and friendship between atheists in the Australian/New Zealand/South Pacific region, and for discussion of political and religious topics relevant to these regions.

Members: 347
Latest Activity: Oct 31

Aussie, Kiwi and South Pacific Atheists

This group is hosted by Richard J and Chrys Stevenson


Another High Court Challenge Against the National School Chaplaincy Program

Website: http://www.highcourtchallenge.com

Breaking News! After successfully challenging the Commonwealth government in the High Court of Australia over funding for the National School Chaplaincy Scheme, Ron Williams is to take them on again.  In an attempt to circumvent the High Court ruling, the government has passed some extremely questionable legislation which tears at the heart of parliamentary democracy and public accountability.  Williams has consulted with his crack legal team and the decision has been made today (Saturday, 7 July) to mount another challenge.

For more information see here:  

http://thatsmyphilosophy.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/its-on-williams-to-return-to-the-high-court-on-chaplaincy-issue/

Mounting a High Court challenge is extremely expensive and Ron Williams is just an average, suburban Dad.  If all of us who care about a secular, democratic Australia can chip in as much as we can, it will help enormously.  Please consider donating at:  

http://www.highcourtchallenge.com/

This is your chance to be a part of making Australian Constitutional history!


Embiggen Books - Your Australian Atheist/Skeptical Bookshop

Embiggen Books, an Australian bookstore devoted to promoting science, philosophy, rationalism and skepticism is now on Little Lonsdale Street, Melbourne. Warren Bonett and Kirsty Bruce of Embiggen are also passionate and active members of the atheist and skeptical communities.

Australian Atheist Issues

For new members, if you want to get a grasp of some of the issues effecting atheists in Australia, you might like to take a look at the Atheist Nexus (Australia) submission on "Freedom of Religion and Belief in the 21st Century" made to the Australian Human Rights Commission early last year. It's long, but easy reading, and worth spending some time on. A report, using information compiled from submissions, should be released later this year.

Atheist Meetup Groups - Australia

If you'd like to meet up with some local atheists, there's no better way than joining your local Atheist Meetup, Skeptics, or Freethought Groups:

Adelaide Atheists
Ballarat Atheists
Brisbane Atheists
Canberra Social Skeptics
Melbourne Atheists
Launceston Skeptics
Macarthur Atheists (Macarthur Region, Sydney (NSW)
Perth Atheists
Perth Skeptics
Sunshine Coast Atheists
Sydney Atheists
Sydney Freethinkers
Western Sydney Freethinkers
Wollongong Skeptics Society

Have we missed your meetup group? Just let me know and I'll add it in.

Discussion Forum

Question from a visitor.

Started by Ted E Bear. Last reply by Chrys Stevenson Jan 17, 2013. 6 Replies

Naughty corner for not attending R.E? Yes, this is in NZ folks!!!

Started by Therese Monteath-Carr. Last reply by Blamer on twitter Dec 10, 2012. 3 Replies

Pell v Dawkins: this Monday

Started by Phillip A. Ellis. Last reply by Alice Apr 17, 2012. 3 Replies

Any Hamiltonian skeptics out there?

Started by Leela Moses Nov 16, 2011. 0 Replies

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Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 19, 2010 at 4:21pm
Have reposted with links and crediting Felch on Facebook and Twitter. Hope you don't mind Felch.
Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 19, 2010 at 4:05pm
Brilliant Felch! Absolutely brilliant! Wild applause!
Comment by Фелч Гроган on July 19, 2010 at 10:03am
For better or worse, I joined the Labor thinktank and dumped this in their issues bin -

Being godless is about more than just being godless

Whilst Julia Gillard deserves to be applauded for unashamedly proclaiming her lack of belief publicly, the purpose in her doing so does not seem entirely clear.

What Ms Gillard needs to be aware of is that atheism is very intimately associated with freethinkers. While the overlap is not complete, most atheists would classify themselves as freethinkers and vice versa.

As both an atheist *and* a freethinker, my initial joy at Ms Gillards proclamation has been somewhat dulled for two very important reasons -

1) Immediately distancing herself from the gay and lesbian community by refusing to support, or even discuss, any changes to gay marriage

2) Proceeding ahead regardless with the internet censorship scheme (and it *is* a censorship scheme no matter how you tart the language up)

Both of these issues show very explicitly that though Ms Gillard may be godless, she is by no means a freethinker and is cast in the same needlessly authoritarian mold as all of her male predecessors. In other words, the only thing that has changed is that there is no god - which is a minor cosmetic detail that has changed nothing that actually matters.

Ms Gillard should also be made aware that if there was some perceived advantage in proclaiming her atheism publicly and thereby capturing the godless vote, her stance on these two issues have effectively undone it. Being closely involved with the Australian atheist and freethinker communities, I know my sentiments are shared by the large majority of these communities. Our votes which could have been safely hers are now lost. Furthermore, if the proposed censorship scheme does come into existence, these votes will be lost forever. Crimes against freethought are never forgiven and freethinkers have extremely long memories. Please remember this thought.
Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 15, 2010 at 2:11am
Just put up a new blog post that some of you may be interested in. It's called: A Case Against School Chaplaincy - Part One: A Fox in the Hen-house.

"To me, the fundamental flaw in the national school chaplaincy program is that the government is specifically hiring evangelical Christians to go into state schools – and then telling them not to evangelise. It’s like hiring a fox to look after the hen-house under strict instructions it’s not to eat the chickens: the directive is neither fair to the chickens nor the fox."
Comment by WiggidyGirl on July 12, 2010 at 5:44pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10590214.stm

The Vatican has seen its third consecutive financial loss, with a 4.1m euros (£3.4m; $5.2m) deficit in 2009.

It saw revenues of 250.2m euros against expenses of 254.3m euros.
But annual donations from churches worldwide - known as Peter's Pence - were up by about 9% in 2009 at $82.52m.

Most of the Vatican's outlay was to cover the activities of Pope Benedict XVI, and services such as Vatican Radio which is broadcast on five continents in 40 different languages.
It said it also faced costly improvements to its telecommunication system while restoring cultural treasures and ensuring security added to the bill.

The Vatican began publishing annual financial reports in 1981 when Pope John Paul II set out to challenge perceptions that the Vatican was rich.

In 2008, the Vatican lost 900,000 euros but in 2007 saw a 9.1m euro deficit.
Comment by Chrys Stevenson on July 12, 2010 at 8:24am
Comment by Фелч Гроган on July 12, 2010 at 8:06am
Comment by Фелч Гроган on July 12, 2010 at 8:03am
Haha. AVN has been ordered to state on their website main page that they are an antivaxx network and that all information on their site has no factual basis and is personal opinion only. I take it there were a lot of viewers - avn.org.au is currently effectively DoS'd from excessive traffic.
Comment by Фелч Гроган on July 12, 2010 at 6:41am
Australian Vaccination Network getting shredded on ABC Lateline tonight.
Comment by Фелч Гроган on July 8, 2010 at 10:11am
I don't care if she is an atheist -

"You can’t walk into a cinema in Australia and see certain things and we shouldn’t on the internet be able to access those things either." Does this sound reasonable to you, or does it sound a bit nonsensical? In either case, it probably won't surprise you to know that the speaker was a politician - in fact, our new Prime Minister. With those words, the PM dispelled the thin hope that a change in leadership might lead to a welcome rethink of the internet filter policy. - EFA

Copped out on the gays, now copping out on this. Zero support from me. Same idiocy with lipstick.
 

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