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Comment by Fred W. Hill on January 11, 2011 at 7:05am
No one can be truly free in this modern world.  How free are we as individuals when corporations are free to polute the air and water we need to survive?  And yes, members of corporations who are making massive profits have proved to be stupid enough to destroy the very environment necessary for survival. And there was hardly any regulation when big businesses nearly destroyed themselves by bringing about the Great Depression.  iWe do not live in small bands of hunter/gatherers any more.  Regulations and laws are required to protect the interests of all people.  The libertarian model of government will never work, except for the benefit of the very wealthy.
Comment by Joseph P on January 11, 2011 at 7:02am

That's the road to theocracy, Michael.  If you privatize all schools, you'll end up with them teaching Creationism instead of Evolution.  Lots of private, religious schools already do that.  It was only through government influence that we got things to the way they are.  Even worse, without the government subsidy, any family that couldn't afford to send their children to the private grade schools would be stuck.  You'd end up creating an uneducated, virtual-slave labor class, which would become HUGE over time.  Uneducated people are far more likely to be religious.

Private welfare services were also a complete disaster.  Did you not read the article that started this whole discussion?

Deflation isn't even necessary.  Who cares what the actual number attached to the money is?  What you're talking about is going back on the gold standard.  That wouldn't cause 99% deflation overnight.  They would just peg the dollar value to the current value of gold.  You're not even making any sense.

And if the government had no role in the economy ... are you talking about the removal of the minimum wage laws?  Are you trying to take us back to the days of slave-labor wages, like in the days of the robber barons, as I mentioned?

 

Speaking of which, Patrick, you're confusing the cause of the problem with the Robber Barons.  They weren't a problem because of the government subsidies.  The government subsidies simply helped businesses open up in the industries that the government wanted to encourage growth in.  The problem was that they then turned their employees into economic slaves, because of the lack of laws to prevent them from doing so, then turned around and used their money to influence the government.

And yes, the government supported slavery, back in the day.  What does that have to do with anything?  The Federal government was quite minimalist back in those days, as well.  You can have slavery legal under any system.  It's just one tiny component of law within the system.

Comment by Michael Pianko on January 11, 2011 at 1:25am

Ideally, I would like the government to be absolutely as small as possible.  Everything that can at all possibly be handled by private organizations should be.  The private organizations should have to earn their own money without taxes.  Even money can and probably should be made by private organizations instead of the government.  In order to reverse inflation, the prices in stores has to decrease drastically, and this will only happen if there was a severe shortage of cash or if the amount of money in the economy is significantly reduced; if the government has to still produce money, then about 90 - 99% of the cash in existence should be confiscated and destroyed and not replaced.  If the government still has to have control over the economy, then someone should figure out how much gold the money in your bank account is worth, and then suddenly make you have only 1% of your current amount of money but what you have left would still be worth the same amount of gold.  

Remember that until 1913, there was no income tax.  I would rather that the government have no control over the economy.  All charity and welfare services should be provided by private organizations. 

Comment by Joseph P on January 11, 2011 at 12:02am

Umm, do you really think that letting Wall Street run wild and do whatever it wants will make the divide between rich and poor any less?

 

The reason the divide between rich and poor is so great is because of the mostly conservative government of the past 30 years.  We've been headed downhill ever since trickle-down economics was introduced.  Bill Clinton's presidency was the only, brief turn-around.

 

Calling the Democrats and Republicans the same party is pretty willfully ignorant, as well.

 

The basic problem with your conclusion that I see has to do with Europe.  They're far more socialist than America has ever been, and they're doing far better, even after the economic meltdown which we created.

 

I could go through all of the major issues of the day and explain how the Libertarian position will lead to more religion, a more ignorant, useless population on average, and often less freedom, because of all of our racist, ignorant countrymen who will push poor people and themselves even further down, by way of individual effort.  I don't feel like doing that in a Singles comment section, though.  :-D

Comment by Patrick on January 10, 2011 at 11:04pm
well im going to bed. ive got to work tomorrow. millions of people on welfare are depending on it.
Comment by Patrick on January 10, 2011 at 11:00pm
i hate conservatives as much as the next guy. i dont want to conserve anything. i want change. the status quo right now is horrible. i just think that if you truly care about the poor you would agree that expanding the government is a bad thing. the divide between rich and poor has never been so great in america. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/28/income-gap-widens-census-_...

the size of the government has also never been so great.
Comment by Keith on January 10, 2011 at 10:54pm

Some people are heartless pricks...aren't they?

 

It is conservative ideology that destroys society. And fucks up everything.

Comment by Patrick on January 10, 2011 at 10:51pm
republicans = democrats

they are exactly the same party. both expanding government and decreasing liberty.
Comment by Patrick on January 10, 2011 at 10:50pm
faux news doesnt support liberty.
Comment by Patrick on January 10, 2011 at 10:49pm
robber barons were created by government subsidies! it wasnt a failure of the free market. this is hard to understand because americans have been drinking the keynesian cool aid for so long.

atheist charities are available.

i have justifications and a plan! how dare you! here is my plan: let me be free. get gov out of the economy... it will run itself. it is too complicated for your commissars to pull all the right levers and make it work. it will work because two free individuals will both benefit from free exchange and hence will continue to do so. economics 101.

how do free markets turn us into 3rd world nations?

again, the government, through a totalitarian practice, enslaved people and now the solution is more government to correct the government created problem? this is what i am arguing against. slavery was a government supported endeavor. HELLO!

the fat american woman with 12 kids has nothing to do with the article. open your mind man. im not just talking about one biased article about one person whose life was ruined by government supported collectivist ideas like enslaving black people. im talking about fucking liberty.
 

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