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Permalink Reply by William Brown on November 30, 2012 at 2:40pm

The only other "non' group that I could suggest is Nar-non. That is the NA version, but it is also very heavily "god" riddled. You may jus try looking online for NA atheist supports. I can share with you how I worked to get passed all the mumbo-jumbo shit in NA. I do not buy into the god thing either, and have a hard time wondering how people could be so delusional. I do understand that there is confort in that state of mind, but not for me thank you.

Anything I could help you with, I would be glad to do, just let me know. If you would like some background on myself, please lok at my profile, or any of the groups Im involved with, or you could go the old fashioned way and just ask me directly.(which I prefer.)

Permalink Reply by William Brown on November 30, 2012 at 2:45pm

I also have a "alternative" set of the 12 steps if your intrested, I think it may help.

here they are., please post ur thoughts.

1. We admitted we were powerless over our addiction, that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. We came to believe and to accept that we needed strengths beyond our awareness and resources to restore us to sanity.

3. We made a decision to entrust our will and our lives to the care of the collective wisdom and resources of those who have searched before us.

4. We made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. We admitted to ourselves, without reservation, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. We were ready to accept help in letting go of all our defects of character.

7. With humility and openness we sought to eliminate our shortcomings.

8. We made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. We made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. We continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.

11. We sought through meditation to improve our spiritual awareness and our understanding of the NA way of life and to discover the power to carry out that way of life.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to addicts, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

Permalink Reply by Mandy Sicard on December 7, 2012 at 8:41pm

I really like that....gonna copy and paste and keep in my big book... thanks!

Permalink Reply by William Brown on December 8, 2012 at 11:48am

Please do, and feel free to change the language if you are in another fellowship. This works for everyone, even those who choose to believe in a god. This is reality based, and very logical, so who knows....