"The coffee is good.My body says sleep.Huh."
 |
The World's Largest Coalition of Nontheists and Nontheist Communities!
Bitching
I'd think more atheists who've struggled with addiction and found a way out would reach back and help out.
The religious 12-steppers have us beat there. Is it just because there's more of them than us? Do they care more?
I'm tired of being the only non-prayer at meetings. Where's the addict who's sober and not doing meetings? And where the f- are they? Instead of ranting on some Internet board about how f-ed up AA is maybe they could write a goddamn book and share the cure.
--- Just came from Dawkin's site, which I love reading, and stupidly took a moment to scroll through the silly AA thread. I'd have been better off f-ing praying for serenity. To think that being addicted to AA meetings is worse than drugs. Puleeze. But the person who said that her family members had lost a lot of time in meetings - now that I'd like to know more about. Did they quit? Are they sober? What do they think about their 12-step experience now.
The religious 12-steppers have us beat there. Is it just because there's more of them than us? Do they care more?
I'm tired of being the only non-prayer at meetings. Where's the addict who's sober and not doing meetings? And where the f- are they? Instead of ranting on some Internet board about how f-ed up AA is maybe they could write a goddamn book and share the cure.
--- Just came from Dawkin's site, which I love reading, and stupidly took a moment to scroll through the silly AA thread. I'd have been better off f-ing praying for serenity. To think that being addicted to AA meetings is worse than drugs. Puleeze. But the person who said that her family members had lost a lot of time in meetings - now that I'd like to know more about. Did they quit? Are they sober? What do they think about their 12-step experience now.
Replies to This Discussion
-
Permalink Reply by GP on -
Yeah. Me too. I'd checked in and was bummed that there hadn't been more activity, then I thought that was pretty lame 'cause I wasn't talking either.
-
-
Permalink Reply by Pete Soderman on -
You are right! AA bashing is fruitless. If I still considered myself an AA member, today would be my 19th "birthday." A lifelong atheist, I thought my life was over when I stumbled into AA and read the steps on the wall. I hung around, though, sobering up by hanging out with a group of recovering guys and just not drinking. Steps were out of the question, for obvious reasons.
I'm not one who can juxtapose some internal whatever for "god" of AA, so I never seriously worked anything, what I did do was read every scrap of AA literature, and, over the years, mixed in a little Zen to what became my own thing.
Know what? Studies have shown that 75% of people who recover from addictions do so absolutely on their own with no help whatsoever. No pills, patches self-help groups or anything else. I stopped going to AA about 5 years ago, and 3 years ago discovered SMART Recovery, where I am now facilitating a face-to-face meeting in Wilmington, NC.
Is this what you were looking for? An AA alternative based upon scientific principals? Well, check it out, it's the best I've seen yet, at least it's the most consistent, and it's not based on magic or the supernatural.
Good luck!
Pete Soderman -
CONNECT WITH ATHEIST NEXUS
Latest Activity
- Top News
- Everything
Joan Denoo commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends"11:00 PM had my first bout of nausea; Rx took care of it. I feel wonderful. Absolutely no pain, I can't finish a sentence or remember words so Cary, Laura and Laurie did their best to understand what I am trying to convey. I usually get enough…"
John Hutcheson posted a blog postAre the media too giddy over the Pope?
With all the media attention the on the Pope, important stories are being missed, human rights violations, Monsanto protection act, Russia march to blasphemy laws, and of the big story this week did Harry Potter vanquish dementors?See More
Ian Mason commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends"The medical profession seems to have improved in some areas at least. Personally I think some of that is due to the higher level of education of society as a whole. We know too much to put up with bad treatment now. I saw a documentary last year…"
Nerdlass replied to Ruth Anthony-Gardner's discussion Cicadas taste like asparagus in the group THE KNIFE & FORK"Thanks. Now I have "Glory of Love" stuck in my head. ^^;
I'm not sure if I could get used to eating bugs. It's like... if they're mudbugs or sea-bugs, that's one thing, but it's hard to imagine them tasting good…"
Nerdlass commented on Debra Stevenson's blog post Some Wiccans and their seeking approval from Christians"I converted to paganism (through wicca, but didn't stay there) from xianity. During that conversion period, I tried to reconcile the beliefs, which ultimately, I couldn't. There are some who find a way (probably used to cherry picking, so…"
Hiram replied to Hiram's discussion Epicureanism: a Secular Doctrine for Happiness"There are currently two Gardens of Epicurus: one in Chicago and one in New Jersey. Please visit if you're in the vecinity!"
© 2013 Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: Richard Haynes.
