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Lawsuit: State trooper preached about Jesus during traffic stop (Indystar.com)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Oct 12, 2014. 51 Replies

I am just going to get out of the way of this one ... though when I saw the headline on…Continue

Tags: police, Indiana, proselytize

S.E. Cupp: I’m a ‘Better’ Atheist than Bill Maher

Started by Joe. Last reply by Regina Goodwin Oct 12, 2014. 45 Replies

In a new online video for Crossfire the pundit makes the claim that conservative atheists are actually “better” than liberal ones,…Continue

Anti-Islam ads coming to NYC buses, subways (CBS News)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Pat Sep 20, 2014. 1 Reply

NEW YORK -- Anti-Islamic ads will begin appearing on a hundred New York City buses and at two subway entrances next week.The six ads include an image of American journalist James Foley, just before…Continue

Tags: islam, ads, American Freedom Defense Initiative, Islamophobia

Pennsylvania teen faces two years in jail for Facebook photo of "desecration"

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 13, 2014. 21 Replies

A 14-year-old in Everett, Pennsyltucky Pennsylvania has been charged with…Continue

Tags: trespassing, photos, stupidity, 'right' not to be offended, Facebook

Judges rule that Ground Zero Cross can stay at 9/11 museum

Started by Joe. Last reply by Luara Aug 3, 2014. 4 Replies

In 2011, the American Atheists – a group dedicated to fight to “protect the absolute separation of religion from government and raise the profile of atheism in the public discourse” - sued to keep…Continue

Atheist TV Officially Launches; David Silverman Criticizes History Channel for Presenting Bible as History

Started by Joe. Last reply by Pat Aug 1, 2014. 5 Replies

The world's first ever all-atheist TV channel officially launched Tuesday, with American Atheist president David Silverman declaring it is geared toward all atheists, everywhere.…Continue

Atheist Philanthropist Makes $10,000 Donation to Support Right Wing Watch Blog

Started by Joe Aug 1, 2014. 0 Replies

People For the American Way and Right Wing Watch do critical work uncovering the vicious language the Right uses to attack anyone whose religious beliefs differ from their own — especially those with…Continue

On this day in history - July 30th, 1956

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 30, 2014. 1 Reply

On this day in history - July 30th, 1956 - "In God We Trust" is adopted as the official motto of the United States.…Continue

Pierce County Council approves displaying “In God We Trust” after volatile debate

Started by Joe Jul 30, 2014. 0 Replies

After more than two hours of volatile debate, the Pierce County Council voted Tuesday to display the national motto “In God We Trust” in the Council Chambers.…Continue

Ireland: Atheists not hopeful of ‘blasphemy’ referendum, in spite of UN pressure

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 29, 2014. 2 Replies

The offense — controversially re-introduced in 2009 — states that a person found guilty of the publication or utterance of “blasphemous matter” can be fined up to €25,000.…Continue

This Church Service In Tennessee Includes Everything But God

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 29, 2014. 5 Replies

There is, however, one rather fundamental missing ingredient that sets this congregation apart from the hundreds of others turning out to worship this Sunday morning in Nashville: this is a church…Continue

Not Just the Adults – Secular Kids’ IQs also Higher

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 28, 2014. 2 Replies

Not one major news outlet has brought attention to the fact that peer-reviewed studies have been ongoing and consistently show the IQs of Atheist to be higher than those of Christians.…Continue

GOP candidate claims fossil record proves humans lived with dinosaurs

Started by Joe. Last reply by Pat Jul 25, 2014. 5 Replies

Frey, a Michele Bachmann ally, testified before the Minnesota Senate Education Committee, speaking against the inclusion of the theory of evolution in proposed state science education standards.…Continue

N. TX Atheist group makes appeal to Hispanic non-believers

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Tomberlin Jul 25, 2014. 1 Reply

The group behind the billboard, the DFW Coalition of Reason, has targeted Christians and African Americans in the past, but it’s especially making an appeal to Hispanic non-believers now.…Continue

Atheist TV Channel Will Launch by the End of the Month

Started by Joe. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 25, 2014. 6 Replies

After first mentioning the idea this past spring, American Atheists has announced that a TV channel dedicated to Atheist programming will launch on July 29th.…Continue

Warren city Atheist sues to set up alternative to prayer station at city hall

Started by Joe. Last reply by Future Jul 25, 2014. 4 Replies

A Warren atheist filed a federal lawsuit today saying his free speech rights were violated when Warren Mayor Jim Fouts turned down his request to place what he called a “reason station” inside city…Continue

Atheists End Teacher-Led Prayer in Indiana School District

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 24, 2014. 1 Reply

A prominent Atheist organization has convinced an Indiana school district to end teacher-led prayer at area public schools following a complaint from an anonymous parent.…Continue

Children Exposed To Religion Have Difficulty Distinguishing Fact From Fiction, Study Finds

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joseph P Jul 23, 2014. 2 Replies

Young children who are exposed to religion have a hard time differentiating between fact and fiction, according to a new study published in the July issue of Cognitive Science.…Continue

Calvary Chapel Creation Conference Starts Today But Draws Atheist Protesters Thursday

Started by Joe Jul 23, 2014. 0 Replies

Stirring things up, according to "Orange County's most famous atheist" Bruce Gleason, will be members of his group Backyard Skeptics, Riverside Atheists and Free Thinkers (RAFT) and the Freethought…Continue

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Comment by Nikki Chaffin on May 18, 2010 at 11:51am
I was 36 before I had my epiphany, only 5 years ago. I came from a Roman Catholic background, Catholic school and the whole 9 yards. Wanted to be a nun even when I was a small girl. Then at 17/18 I went the complete other route - Jehovah's Witness! to my parents dismay. I'd felt that I'd been lied to by the Catholic Church and that they had it all wrong and the JW's had it all right. But that was going on the premise that god exists. I never questioned that part, at all, ever. For me it was all about who knew best how god wanted us to live and all that.....Fast forward to October 2004 and a catastrophic car wreck that left me mamed and disfigured, that I shouldn't have survived. In the immediate months afterwards, having to endure pain and suffering on a level that no human being should have to live through, is when it all began for me. I used to pray, constantly, begging and praying for god to please don't let me wake up in the morning, the suffering was so - there's no words that can describe it - it was extreme enough that I prayed, begged, pleaded with anyone who'd listen to help me to go. I first arrived at a hate for god, that anyone who could let someone who's suffering continue to suffer in that manner after all the begging and pleading, any god that could allow that is no god I want anything to do with. screw him. I was full of hate. Keep your god I want nothing more to ever do with him for allowing me to continue to suffer, is where I now was. And then it didn't take too long after that for my to suddenly have the epiphany, that it just didn't make sense. I'm sure there are many who have begged for death to escape pain, people with crushing injuries and such. I began to see Earthquakes and catastrophes around the world and my first thought is how these people will be in the same place I was, no amount of morphine to fix it. And while others are praying for their survival and saying how lucky they were to have survived...that person is not feeling any of that. None of it made any sense any more. I was hating something that clearly did not exist. Like a lightbulb moment. I'd never questioned god's existence before that and really never got to a point where I ever did. I went from believer to non believer in an instant, as quickly as you could remove a veil or turn on a light switch. And now, 5 years later, I just feel so liberated, like I'd spent so many years in the dark. A lot of wasted years. But here I am, looking for new paradigms. Just found this site yesterday and couldn't be happier to know there are likeminded people in the world. I'm very sad for people I've loved who will never disavow their god or religion. They think I'm crazy but I KNOW it's them, and to the original question, how do you change that in someone? No one could've changed my mind years ago I don't think. Certainly not with the training JW's get. They're very indoctrinated. It's very hard to undo. I dont know, I'm just glad to be living true to myself now and that's all I can really control.
Comment by Amy on May 18, 2010 at 11:21am
Rob, While I can share with you the experience that prompted my most serious questioning of Christianity, leading to my rejection of the "faith", it would be a mistake to credit that single experience for my resulting epiphany. It took years and years of my life experiences, observations, ponderings, and (eventually) personal growth, to provide the fertile ground for my awakening.

Five or so years ago, I escaped an emotionally and psychologically abusive marriage...one that looked sooo good on the outside, yet was killing me slowly. Through a LOT of soul searching and personal growth, I arrived at a point where I recognized that God was treating me exactly the same as my narcissistic ex-husband did. His love was conditional, I was never going to be good enough, everything was always my fault, and it was basically....His way or the highway! It was when I was seeking a marriage annulment from the Catholic church that I realized I was relinquishing all control of my life....willingly handing it over to the Church/God. I was giving someone else the power to approve or disapprove of me and my choices, as well as the power to tell me what and what not to do. I don't do well with people controlling me, and when I left my marriage, I promised myself I'd only be in relationship with people who respected me. Well, during the annulment procedure, I realized that God (and the Church) were disqualified from my relationship options, merely by their controlling nature. I used to say "I didn't like the way God was treating me or my children, so I broke up with Him". It became just another abusive, dysfunctional relationship, and in order for me to be healthy, I had to break it off.

This was a process....one that started a long time ago. However, when my eyes first peered open to the possibility of my relationship with God being abusive, I opened them WIDE open and began an arduous search for answers. I do have a characteristic that separates me from a lot of other people..... I WANT to see things as they REALLY are, not as I want them to be. I want the ugly, hard truth of things. Don't sugar-coat the truth, don't dress it up and pass it off as something it isn't. Just lay it on me.....I can take it. I want it. This is a direct result of living with a narcissist and being lied to for 23 years (and not even knowing it). A result of taking lies as TRUTH, and experiencing the horrible devastation that occurs when you realize that your whole world has been based on.....LIES. After my initial questioning, it was only a matter of months till I was "all done" with Christianity.

The Christian God is The Supreme Narcissist. Very charismatic, very convincing, very sly. He lures people into His evil web (courts them) with an illusion of eternal love, acceptance and forgiveness. Once they commit to Him, however, He turns on them. He invalidates everything about them, and takes the credit for any and all "good" that might be in them. Through invalidation, He kills their very soul*, which is what every true narcissist does to his victims. If you can invalidate an individual at the very core of their being, you have enslaved them. If you convince them there is NO GOOD in them, that they are BAD TO THE CORE..... you have successfully extinguished their flame. I believe Christianity (or any fundamental religion) to be nothing less than soul-rape. It's a cruel, insidious evil...luring and trapping unsuspecting victims, often holding them hostage for a lifetime. And just like a slimy narcissist, its even more perfidious because it LOOKS so damn virtuous and meritorious!!!
Comment by Aiden on May 18, 2010 at 8:10am
Rick, WTF is that all about? You posted that pic in several groups with no explanation...
Comment by Rick on May 17, 2010 at 11:49pm
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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2010 at 2:08pm
I participate with a group of women who first came together more than 20 years ago because we were struggling living within the boundaries of our various religious dogmas. We set certain limits: each person expressed herself as honestly and for as long as she needed, no one could interrupt, all had the right and obligation to respond honestly and understood we were safe, and what we said staid in our little group. One woman declared she was an atheist and I could not understand her meaning. We discussed our differences over several years. I read a book by Spong and understood Penny's reasoning. I have no idea what Spong wrote that made Penny understandable. I just know that a clergyman from England, with the name Spong, clicked.

Have you ever driven down a highway certain you were going in one direction, when in fact, you were going in the opposite direction? At some point, the direction becomes clear. That is how my experience with Penny and Spong felt. I just know that I tried everything I could to live as a Christian wife and mother and felt guilty, ashamed, blamed, accused, and responsible for all that was going wrong in my marriage and family.

Long-story-made-short: I left my faith in Christianity, my husband and my pain behind and life is better for me.

Other participants in our little group continue in their faith and the sense of community seems to be a very important part of their choices. I find community elsewhere, even as I continue to participate with the group. We get lots of practice in dealing with differences because we are lefts wing/right wing, progressive/conservative, pro choice/anti choice ... and on and on.
For me, learning how to live and thrive with differences is the highest value.
Comment by Tommy on May 17, 2010 at 10:32am
Amy, I agree with Rob. would love to know. I personally want to commend you. You seem to be an exceptional person. It is very hard to break the chains at our age. I am not sure I could have done it myself. It took me a period of 10 years to fully clear the cobwebs. I don't think anyone understands how powerful this kind of indoctrination really is or as far as that goes, how dangerous it is to our future.
Comment by Rob N on May 17, 2010 at 9:20am
@Amy, I'm curious what it was that started off your doubts? What things you had to 'see for yourself'?

How would you recommend we approach a fully indoctrinated christian, in order to get them thinking the way you started to think; without arguing?
Comment by Amy on May 17, 2010 at 9:07am
please don't give up on the older 'brainwashed' christian! i was 48 before the veil was lifted from my own eyes. however, arguing would NOT have been an effective approach with me. i had to see things for myself...and i needed safe, non-judgmental people to process my thoughts with.

arguing usually does more harm than good, imo. it incites emotions, and invites misunderstanding. also...it's futile with a population who has rejected reasoning as part of their thought process.
Comment by Tommy on May 17, 2010 at 8:28am
You can not win an argument with a fully brain washed religious fanatic. i was raised by just such people but luckily for me I have always been a person to think things through and come to my own opinion. I have raised two children explaining my point of view while giving them free rein to make their own decision. Both are atheist. both have talked to other kids who given a chance broke from their brain washing and now are atheist. This is the only way to win this battle is breaking the brain washing cycle while their young. Once they get older it is pretty much useless.
Comment by Pat Burke on May 17, 2010 at 8:04am
@Meag. Thanx for the clarification. I am puzzled by the "story" status. It's been propagated on a number of blogs without much in the way of clarification vis the law (as of a couple of days ago).
@TNT, @Joan. Thanx also for the clarification. I agree with what you say as one tactic. It is a good tactic. A campaign's strategy is best served by multiple tactics, however, and one of the most important tactics is to confront the enemy on their own ground. I think to ignore religious provocations (posted on facebook, say) is equally to allow them to set an agenda.
I think we have an agenda; the advancement of science and reason.
I'm all for atheists getting together for coffee and chit-chat, demonstrations and counter-demonstrations, but I'm leery of becoming too organized. Successful organization begets Power. Power corrupts.
Religion and superstition are in a natural course of decline, have been since the Enlightenment and even prior to that. We are winning. I guess the question becomes; do we settle for the current pace or do we ramp up the pressure. Of course, the harder we push, the harder they'll push back.
 

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