The religious and their politics

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Permalink Reply by Joseph P on January 4, 2012 at 7:28am

The problem is that Ron Paul wants to take government out of everyone's lives, economically, and shove it right up women's vaginas.  His 'states rights' bullshit will have abortion illegal in well over half of the country, will reinstate the anti-sodomy laws, and shove religion back into public schools.

Permalink Reply by Susan Stanko on January 4, 2012 at 7:44am

But businesses will be free to discriminate and harrass.

Permalink Reply by Smiley Courtney on January 4, 2012 at 8:01am

Not certain what you're getting at.

 

The constitution dictates the protection of individual rights. The Federal government has the right and the authority to protect rights; thus, it has the right and the authority to prevent discrimination (for example). However, the Federal government does NOT have the right or the authority to dictate how an individual's property is to be disposed of, which is what health care mandates do.

Permalink Reply by Susan Stanko on January 4, 2012 at 8:34am

Which is why Paul said that the Federal Government should not protect women from harassment.

Permalink Reply by Smiley Courtney on January 4, 2012 at 7:50am

Where in the world did you get such off the wall ideas?  "'states rights' bullshit"? Have you not READ the Constitution?

That is the same blinkered view that claims Paul is a homophobe. But Paul's faith in the Constitution means that the Federal Government has NO place in the bedroom. While most 'social conservative Republicans' favor a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, Paul wants to leave it up to the states. And what is happening at the state level? State after state is making it explicitly legal (Hawaii just legalized domestic unions, a first step). Paul's support of the constitution will put the power to legalize same-sex marriage more within the reach of the citizenry. The same for women's rights.

If an evangelical candidate wins the White House, watch the Radical Right try to force these things down everyone's throat from the Federal level. States Rights is our best chance to defend individual rights.

What's more, if the evangelical's gain the White House, we will see atheism be made illegal. If Obama stays in, the US will go the way of Greece. Paul is our best bet!

Permalink Reply by Susan Stanko on January 4, 2012 at 8:33am

What does gay marriage have to do with a woman's vagina?

Permalink Reply by Phil on January 4, 2012 at 9:50am

Exactly (minus the vagina thing). In the absence of a government that represents and protects a secular and diverse society, the rich and the bigoted replace the responsible and the democratic. Libertarianism may sound fine, superficially, but, in practical terms, we either hang together or surely we will all hang separately.

Permalink Reply by The Big Blue Frog on January 4, 2012 at 9:20am

Why Ron Paul is wrong for atheists and wrong for a secular America.

Permalink Reply by The Big Blue Frog on January 4, 2012 at 9:51am

Ron Paul's Christian Reconstructionist Roots

Permalink Reply by Dustin Williams on January 9, 2012 at 4:52pm

Ron Paul's We the People Act would give the states free reign to establish religion, ban abortion and contraceptives, enact (or reinstate) sodomy laws, and do whatever the hell they want to do. We have a longstanding tradition that most of freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights belong to all citizens and that they are protected from federal, state, and local governments. Ron Paul wants to change that. Paul is not a libertarian, he's just anti-federalist.