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Atheist Morality

A place for atheists to discuss morality issues. What shapes your morality? What new perspectives have you found since abandoning faith (if you ever had any)? Is there any merit to religious moral authority?

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Comment by KnowsNog-ds on July 5, 2009 at 6:40am
To me, if your moral code is based on fear (i.e. bible teachings of everlasting hellfire), I don't think it is truly your moral code. When people (i.e. idiots like Steve Harvey) say you can't be moral without g-d, I ask them how many of them would still live this "pious" life if they were suddenly convinced there was no higher power? I would suspect very few would.
Comment by mxyzptlk on May 3, 2009 at 4:12am
lstpuzzlepc,

A better poll question would be "Can society survive peacefully and productively with religion." After all, we have evidence for that one -- not likely. It seems that existing "peacefully" and "productively" are the stated aims of most religions, but "peacefully" and "productively" are often at cross-purposes. Even Buddhists go to war.

But we don't really have evidence for society as a whole surviving without religion -- it just hasn't been tried, if by society they mean civilization. (Besides, "society" is a wishy-washy, imprecise and vague term.)
Comment by Brad on March 26, 2009 at 1:49pm
I was just surfing and read a bit on topix.com and there was a poll, the question posed was one I'm sure most of us have wondered, it was this "Can society survive without religion?" the results.... well they didn't shock me at all, but they will always upset me. :( this battle (which should never involve a physical approach is not going to be won on one front, there are other angles to be observed as well as the scientific or the evolutionary. It just seems to me that the debate within religion and atheism has become stagnent, or stuck in this perpetual loop of thought. There's angles of betrail to be considered for a reasons for people to not believe, human rights issues of brain washing children to believe what we adults are debating... there just seems to be a very sinister plan going on here, right under our noses, and has been for a very long time, since before the colonizing of this country, which was part of the same plan. As human beings are we "just" as ignorant as we are intelligent? what makes that so? Is it our lack of humility? Is it our bias and pride, developed by greed?

So many things to ponder, and we don't take the appropriate time to do so.... Vision quest, walkabout, meditation,....

Why does the turtle always win the race? We have lost something over the many many many many many years living these fast paced life-styles, that style isn't conducive to an awakening.... atleast not for most.

for what it's worth, here are the results to that disapointing poll.

Can society survive without religious structure?created by: Author Bradley Fowler | Oct 23, 2007
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No Maybe. Perhaps it can. I don't think so. Definitely Not sure. Yes. God will not like it. Islam is about God religion is man-made No 4790 50%
Yes. 1584 16%
religion is man-made 1002 10%
Definitely 940 9%
I don't think so. 379 3%
Perhaps it can. 278 2%
Maybe. 195 2%
Not sure. 129 1%
God will not like it. 123 1%
Islam is about God 94 0%
Current Total 9514
Comment by Marcelo A. on February 16, 2009 at 7:58pm
Hello everyone;

In respect to morality for a lack of a better word, I think the way to look at it is to analyze the ethical problems individually as they come along and based on both the facts presented and what your emotions dictate. I think that the ideas of Nietzsche are worth looking at, specially the book “beyond good and evil” for anyone interested in atheist morality. Personally as a nihilist I think that the only way to live a good life is to act on your emotions." Although I think that one must use its personal criteria to understand when is necessary to take rational decisions or to shut down emotionally. For example war.

Any impute is appreciated.
Comment by Rosemary LYNDALL WEMM on January 30, 2009 at 12:00am
I found this entry under Morality in Wikipedia. It seems to need "updating" to reflect reality.


Modern research in criminology also acknowledges an inverse relationship between religion and crime,[28] with many studies establishing this beneficial connection (though some claim it is a modest one).[29] Indeed, a meta-analysis of 60 studies on religion and crime concluded, “religious behaviors and beliefs exert a moderate deterrent effect on individuals’ criminal behavior”.[30]
Comment by Reality Activist on December 3, 2008 at 10:04am
As a point of reference for others, I will use the word "moral", but there are better terms that can be used that do not have religious connotations. Since morals are directly related to one's beliefs, morals can be immoral when translated into behavior. Christians get their morals from their interpretation of the Bible which is similar to Muslims with respect to the Koran. Unfortunately, atheists also can fall into this trap because their beliefs may not have a rational premise even though the belief that is related to their premise may be completely rational. The premise for most beliefs seems to focus on the desire of how things should be. Consequently, when one tries to behave in a way that is consistent with the belief, they tend to not see the present or the reality of the situation. For example, a certain behavior may be harmless, but if it doesn't fit in with how one would like to see the world, it is considered immoral. A good example of this is Polyamous relationships. Another example is when many atheists voted for a third party candidate in November when the need was to prevent an ultra conservative from being appointed to the Supreme Court. Of course, by taking the atheist vote away from the candidate that would protect the Supreme Court, they actually let their belief get in the way of a rational selection. Fortunately (in this context), because of the economics situation, the protector of the Constitution won. The first example is of a cultural fundamentalist. The second is an example of a political fundamentalist. It would behoove all of us to check our beliefs and question the premise which is their foundation.
Comment by Evilgenius20 on September 10, 2008 at 12:16am
 

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