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Lewis Black: The Flintstones is not a documentary.

A slightly longer version of the clip that used to be here. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g

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Comment by Joseph P on February 5, 2015 at 12:07am

How would you build a position for a debate, Joseph? On either side? The claims from each side seem imaginary to me.

Joan, do you mean whether I side with the Israelis or the Palestinians?  I lean towards the Palestinians, since the fairly recent formation of Israel based upon millennia-old mythology was kind of unjust.

But it isn't any worse than a lot of the wars of conquest of the 19th and 20th centuries.  How far back does your war of conquest have to have been, for your claim to be legitimate?

Why am I having quotes about legitimate rape running through my head, now?

Comment by sk8eycat on February 4, 2015 at 9:39pm

I faked myself out on that one.  My head has been in a strange place for several days, and I started to reread my Robert Ingersoll collection because I haven't been able to sleep. 

I just finished Some Mistakes of Moses early this AM, and I was still in the mood he creates in that book (supposing, JUST supposing that someone named Mosses did write the Pentateuch) when I read the joke the first time.

I also reread Jimmy Carter's book about how the Israelis have been pushing the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas in the occupied territories. It's appalling, and I feel the Palestinians have a genuine grievance with Israel and the USA.  Never thought I'd say that, but it's true.

Comment by Daniel W on February 4, 2015 at 9:17pm

I suppose Thutmose II, or whoever the Pharaoh would have been, could have arranged to have all traces of the Hebrews erased from Egypt, and then the Hebrews were just really fastidiously clean while hundreds of thousands of them were wandering around the desert for 40 years.  Waste not want not.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 4, 2015 at 9:04pm

Oh, yes. I should have thought. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 4, 2015 at 8:46pm
On Moses, the stories related to him are extraordinary . So those claims require extraordinary evidence.

No evidence for the Hebrew slaves in Egypt.
No evidence for the plagues.
No evidence for the passover - all those people, and not a pottery shard.

I should say, no credible evidence. There may be bogus evidence.

You cant prove a negative. But you also cant prove there is no Ahura Mazda, or Quetzalcoatl, or Buddha.
Comment by Joan Denoo on February 4, 2015 at 4:54pm

How would you build a position for a debate, Joseph? On either side? The claims from each side seem imaginary to me. 

Comment by Joseph P on February 4, 2015 at 3:30pm

Sadly, I could see it being based upon real arguments made by some Israelis, although hopefully not by anyone influential enough to get sent to the UN on their behalf.  I think they have a good number of analogues to our fundamentalist nuts, over there.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 4, 2015 at 3:30pm

@ Joan and Joseph - how can you argue with Charleton Heston, Cecil B. DeMille and a cast of 1000s???

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 4, 2015 at 3:02pm

Joseph, as I almost always agree with your comments, this one requires a comment. You and I and we know Moses is, in fact, fictional, until and unless any evidence shows up to cause us to reevaluate.

The problem exists in those who have constructed Moses in their minds. Those stories, told over hundreds of years, lie deeply in the thinking of some people.

Given that reality, how is one to respond?  

Comment by Joseph P on February 4, 2015 at 2:45pm

The fact that Moses is almost certainly fictional is just a side issue.

 

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