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Insane Clown Posse: And God created controversy: America's nastiest rappers in shocking revelation – they've been evangelical Christians all along
I'm just making this a discussion for length, but this is the best interview I've ever read.
"ICP have been going for 20 years, always wearing clown make-up, which looks slightly lumpy because it's painted over their goatees. They've been banned from performing in various cities where juggalos have been implicated in murders and gang violence. ICP have a fearsome reputation, fostered by news reports showing teenagers in juggalo T-shirts arrested for stabbing strangers and lyrics like "Barrels in your mouth/bullets to your head/The back of your neck's all over the shed/Boomshacka boom chop chop bang."
All of which makes Violent J's recent announcement really quite astonishing: Insane Clown Posse have this entire time secretly been evangelical Christians. They've only been pretending to be brutal and sadistic to trick their fans into believing in God."
Best. Interview. EVER.: fuckin miracles all up in this bitch
My favorite part:
""No," sighs Violent J. "I figured most people would say, 'Wow, I didn't know Insane Clown Posse could be deep like that.' But instead it's, 'ICP said a giraffe is a miracle. Ha ha ha! What a bunch of idiots.'" He pauses, then adds defiantly, "A giraffe is a fucking miracle. It has a dinosaur-like neck. It's yellow. Yeah, technically an elephant is not a miracle. Technically. They've been here for hundreds of years…"
"Thousands," murmurs Shaggy.
"Have you ever stood next to an elephant, my friend?" asks Violent J. "A fucking elephant is a miracle. If people can't see a fucking miracle in a fucking elephant, then life must suck for them, because an elephant is a fucking miracle. So is a giraffe.""
Another good part:
""Well," Violent J says, "science is… we don't really… that's like…" He pauses. Then he waves his hands as if to say, "OK, an analogy": "If you're trying to fuck a girl, but her mom's home, fuck her mom! You understand? You want to fuck the girl, but her mom's home? Fuck the mom. See?"
I look blankly at him. "You mean…"
"Now, you don't really feel that way," Violent J says. "You don't really hate her mom. But for this moment when you're trying to fuck this girl, fuck her! And that's what we mean when we say fuck scientists. Sometimes they kill all the cool mysteries away. When I was a kid, they couldn't tell you how pyramids were made…"
"Like Stonehenge and Easter Island," says Shaggy. "Nobody knows how that shit got there."
"But since then, scientists go, 'I've got an explanation for that.' It's like, fuck you! I like to believe it was something out of this world.""
MOOOOARRRRR:
""Well, it's very unpleasant," I say. "'I stuck her with my wang. She hit me in the balls. I grabbed her by her neck. And I bounced her off the walls. She said it was an accident and then apologised. But I still took my elbow and blackened both her eyes.' That's clearly a song about domestic violence. So your Christian message is... don't be like that man?"
"Huh?" Violent J repeats, mystified."
"ICP have been going for 20 years, always wearing clown make-up, which looks slightly lumpy because it's painted over their goatees. They've been banned from performing in various cities where juggalos have been implicated in murders and gang violence. ICP have a fearsome reputation, fostered by news reports showing teenagers in juggalo T-shirts arrested for stabbing strangers and lyrics like "Barrels in your mouth/bullets to your head/The back of your neck's all over the shed/Boomshacka boom chop chop bang."
All of which makes Violent J's recent announcement really quite astonishing: Insane Clown Posse have this entire time secretly been evangelical Christians. They've only been pretending to be brutal and sadistic to trick their fans into believing in God."
Best. Interview. EVER.: fuckin miracles all up in this bitch
My favorite part:
""No," sighs Violent J. "I figured most people would say, 'Wow, I didn't know Insane Clown Posse could be deep like that.' But instead it's, 'ICP said a giraffe is a miracle. Ha ha ha! What a bunch of idiots.'" He pauses, then adds defiantly, "A giraffe is a fucking miracle. It has a dinosaur-like neck. It's yellow. Yeah, technically an elephant is not a miracle. Technically. They've been here for hundreds of years…"
"Thousands," murmurs Shaggy.
"Have you ever stood next to an elephant, my friend?" asks Violent J. "A fucking elephant is a miracle. If people can't see a fucking miracle in a fucking elephant, then life must suck for them, because an elephant is a fucking miracle. So is a giraffe.""
Another good part:
""Well," Violent J says, "science is… we don't really… that's like…" He pauses. Then he waves his hands as if to say, "OK, an analogy": "If you're trying to fuck a girl, but her mom's home, fuck her mom! You understand? You want to fuck the girl, but her mom's home? Fuck the mom. See?"
I look blankly at him. "You mean…"
"Now, you don't really feel that way," Violent J says. "You don't really hate her mom. But for this moment when you're trying to fuck this girl, fuck her! And that's what we mean when we say fuck scientists. Sometimes they kill all the cool mysteries away. When I was a kid, they couldn't tell you how pyramids were made…"
"Like Stonehenge and Easter Island," says Shaggy. "Nobody knows how that shit got there."
"But since then, scientists go, 'I've got an explanation for that.' It's like, fuck you! I like to believe it was something out of this world.""
MOOOOARRRRR:
""Well, it's very unpleasant," I say. "'I stuck her with my wang. She hit me in the balls. I grabbed her by her neck. And I bounced her off the walls. She said it was an accident and then apologised. But I still took my elbow and blackened both her eyes.' That's clearly a song about domestic violence. So your Christian message is... don't be like that man?"
"Huh?" Violent J repeats, mystified."
Tags: christianity, clown, insane, miracles, posse
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Prog Rock Girl on -
I heard about their Christianity before and thought they were the least likely band to become Christian. Now they're combining the stupidity of thuggery with the stupidity of creationism!
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Permalink Reply by Randy Rose on -
It's not that they became Christians. Apparently they've been Christians all along and the whole act was a ploy to get into the mindset of youths to convert them to Christianity. And disguising it for 20 years?? Well, apparently, they're dedicated.
I am not a fan of theirs at all. I probably dislike their music more than I dislike Hootie and the Blowfish (who I consider to be one of the worst bands of all time). But if you take the chance to at least read the lyrics to a few songs, it's actually somewhat obvious. Look at "Miracles" for example. -
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on -
Gee whiz ... Violence, Nihilism and Stupidity, all in one package. Now isn't that just SPESHUL?!?
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Permalink Reply by §kürrý on -
I have an ICP tattoo but consider myself long retired, so I may be able to give a view from the other side of this.
ICP isn't christian, they merely stated in one song "the truth is we follow god." I think that was mostly because a.) Violent J flipped out a couple of years before and had paranoid delusions about god and b.) they hyped the 6th jokers card (an album) up for 15 years and needed something big.
In all their albums there is a hidden morality if you understand them. It is mostly about anti-racism, anti-greed, and pretty much any one who picks on someone weaker than they (eg. spousal abuse in the song "Halls of Illusions"). All of this is sprinkled throughout the musical equivalent of a horror movie.
The thing about the miracles is more of a nostalgia for the childish sense of mystery and magic. He's mad that there no pixie dust and such. I doubt very much that they hate scientists and that Shaggy is religious. They most likely do not follow any religion at all.
They actually have a newer song (like last 5 years) that is called CPK, which stands for Crooked Preacher Killer. It is basically about shooting up a pedophile priest.
No fan has ever been converted to a religion because of ICP, in fact most people laugh at that mentioning of god no matter how big of a fan they are.
Keep in mind these are clowns. -
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Permalink Reply by Daniel on -
This reminds me of a time that I was at a Les Claypool concert. A guy nearly jumped on stage to show Les his ginormous Les Claypool portrait tattoo all over his back.
Les simply replied in so many words...Jesus man what did you do that for? How do you know I won't do something stupid in the future like invade another country for oil?
Then he returned to the show and fucking rocked my socks off (obligatory). -
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Permalink Reply by §kürrý on
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Well... my tattoo is not of them it is the label symbol and is memoriam of someone... so... yeah.
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Permalink Reply by Daniel on
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I thought this was old news? I heard this long ago maybe last year or early this year maybe?
In any case it's not all that surprising when you actually think about it...biblical violence, end of world prophecy, compartmentalized thinking. Money says they were 12 steppers who had some sort of control issue and got indoctrinated in the process.
That said, I saw them back in the mid 90's with a friend who loved them. The fans are nuts and I had so much fun moshing with them crazy bastards; it was the only show where I actually moshed to the recorded music (Deftones Adrenaline) that venues play while the bands are preparing to start the show. -
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