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The Unbelievers

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 12, 2013. 2 Replies

The Ledge (2011)

Started by Micah Johnson. Last reply by Craigart14 Sep 1, 2013. 6 Replies

Prometheus?

Started by Marc Draco. Last reply by Eric A Flynn Feb 10, 2013. 6 Replies

Ten Favorite Atheist Films

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by Eric A Flynn Feb 10, 2013. 39 Replies

Cloud Atlas

Started by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2012. 0 Replies

Documentary: "8: The Mormon Proposition"

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by James M. Martin Jul 29, 2012. 3 Replies

Moneyball

Started by Loren Miller Apr 21, 2012. 0 Replies

Real Steel

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 21, 2012. 2 Replies

How an Iranian film unites us all (CNN)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by TNT666 Feb 21, 2012. 3 Replies

agora best atheist movie?

Started by vondutch. Last reply by Craigart14 Sep 24, 2011. 13 Replies

Most Disappointing Movie Ever

Started by Edward Teach. Last reply by Gabriel Garcia May 29, 2011. 23 Replies

The Cove

Started by TNT666. Last reply by TNT666 Mar 12, 2011. 7 Replies

John Barry is gone

Started by Loren Miller Jan 31, 2011. 0 Replies

A Serious Man

Started by S.A. Alenthony. Last reply by A Former Member Sep 16, 2010. 3 Replies

The Stoning of Soraya M.

Started by Little Name Atheist. Last reply by Little Name Atheist Jul 4, 2010. 12 Replies

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Comment by TNT666 on August 12, 2011 at 1:41am
I just saw Rise of the Planet of the Apes. I had not seen any of the previous instalments. I did watch PotA assiduously as a child and loved the series. This movie aptly describes how the alternate future could come about. The CGI is not all it could be, but it's not bad... Knowing this, you can enter the theatre forewarned, and then put it aside and enjoy the development. It's as good entertainment as vulgar Summer blockbusters can get! It's not too moralising, and we of course know the ending beforehand, which often makes for better directorial focus of story development. Botched endings are the worst... just as well to skip them for known endings :)
Comment by William Forbeck on May 1, 2011 at 11:46pm
Um, wow I don't know exactly what started the current I'll call it debate. But I watched "The book of Eli" and I think you are all right. It seemed from my point of view it was a bit preachy after all the point of the movie seems to be that a blind man eventually succeeds in his goal(seems to be delivering the bible, and yes a specific translation and they say it a couple of times)the whole seems to be literal "blind faith". However the "bad" guy in the movie calls it a weapon, because he is all about controlling people. Early in the movie it is said the government burned all the copies they could find except the one he has of course. I don't remember them talking about any other "holy" books. A distinct impression I did get is that without certain "rules" people are blood thirsty animals, but at the end of the movie A large organized group of people are amassing all the books they can find and don't seem to be religious so I guess moot point there.
I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that at some points it's clearly preachy and then they reverse themselves at others, so it seems to me that either they didn't really care about a point or were constantly back peddling or maybe it just a typical post-apocalyptic action movie. I only gave it 3 stars in netflix because it was a decent action movie. I just rolled my eyes at parts I thought were well dumb.
I am a hardcore skeptic so I saw it both ways and neither, just sayin.
Comment by TNT666 on April 28, 2011 at 6:39pm
You're giving me a distinct impression of having come here strictly to pick a fight with atheists. Your ways speak louder than your words.
Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 6:04pm

Nailed it, TNT thank you...

Egan, young man, I'm  not being ageist - I'm pointing out (as others have tried to with more patience than I can be bothered to muster) that you're an arrogant little know-it-all who has managed to miss the point completely and can't see beyond your own opinion.

Like many others here, I have a world of experience to call on that you simply haven't had the time to amass. Now, pull your head from outa your ass and smell the daisies.

This is an atheist site - people here are often deeply distrustful of any covert religious message and BoE didn't try very hard to disguise its true nature; despite the directors' attempts to water it down.

A wise man learns to listen, before he speaks... and it'll be a long time before you attain wisdom. Mark Twain once observed how his own parents had learned so much in a short time; I'll leave you to discover the quotation and figure out how it applies to you.

Comment by TNT666 on April 28, 2011 at 5:21pm
Indeed, we read that typical Christian line of defense all the time: "You're too close minded" "You're too dogmatic". Wow Egan, great way of not noticing. What else is the guy going to say! That is SO typical. Throughout the interview they state how they tried to "tone down" the Christian stuff and camouflage it as "spirituality" in order that all faiths can like the movie and not be turned off by the Christianity shite. It's all about the money and you bought into their manipulativeness hook, line and sinker.
Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 4:34pm

And you might also want to consider this interview with the directors - which proves it fairly easily. These guys don't seem to consider that God does NOT exist...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:qyMWnrtemG8J:i...

Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 4:20pm

Egan, you are showing your youth by your arrogance, I'm afraid. Don't assume that you're the only person here with an interest in movies. I'm more than twice your age so you can assume that I've seen a lot of movies (I average one a night, if I can find one) and have done for many years.

 

What you failed to notice is that in at least one "memorable" scene, Washington is shot at by multiple bad guys, yet never actually hit. I hated the movie because it's a BAD movie. I admire Washington, he's a great actor - loved him in Man on Fire, Unstoppable etc. but BoE is tosh from beginning to end; incoherent pap. Perhaps when you've gained greater experience, you'll see that.

 

One of the things scriptwriters and directors do when a disabled character has a special ability is draw direct attention to it; this because, unlike a book, we aren't privy to what the character's abilities are or are not.

CF. The tongue in cheek approach of Blind Fury (1989) the terrifying broken glass scene in Blind Terror (1971) - which is a true British classic of the genre. Then we also have Red Dragon (2002) with Emily Watson playing a blind love interest of the serial killer...

Comment by Loren Miller on April 28, 2011 at 4:07pm

Lots of Germans put a lot of importance on Mein Kampf, but that didn't MAKE it either right or essential to life, egan.  Same notation on the bible.  The ONLY reason why I have gotten to know it is to refute it when dealing with people who have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. 

 

Oh, and I'm not particularly christianophobic - if anything, they'd better damned well be afraid of ME.

Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 3:24pm

Yes Egan, I have seen it. Wasted a couple of hours of my life on it, I'm sad to say. It's been a while, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

I'll point out again - Washington's character was guided and protected by a mysterious power... if that isn't an allegory for the supernatural, then I'm a creationist. Not to mention the time he had taken on his quest - how many years? I forget - but it seemed like a ludicrous amount of time to be wandering around in a wasteland.

 

If they didn't want to make it supernatural, they could have chosen another book - not the KJV, hell, Origin of Species would have been just as relevant. Perhaps we should research who financed it? That would throw a bit of light on this. Philip Pullman's movie adaptations have been tossed largely because some Xian orgs. have protested and similarly the god-awful Narnia nonsense gets big bucks from some right-wing loons. [Not to mention that the Golden Compass was a travesty to the book.]

 

I don't want to add spoilers so others can judge, but we both know what made Eli so "special" and there's no way that could be anything natural: and there certainly was no suggestion that he was a cyborg.

 

 

Comment by Marc Draco on April 28, 2011 at 2:51pm

Quite Loren... Egan, the problem is with the premise. If it's blind faith, then fine - but wait - WHY the KJV? Why no some "non-religious book?" remember that this "book" was going to save the world. That was a major premise of the film!

 

Not only that, but look (if you'll pardon the pun) at Denzel's powers... hardly worldly are they? He's bullet proof AND can kill a guy stone dead with a single shot - without so much as stopping to aim. The guy is clearly under some supernatural direction and/or protection...

 

Which film were you watching?

 

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