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A place to talk about your favorite movies, genres, actors and directors. Please try to keep one discussion per genre, actor or director.

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The Unbelievers

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Nov 12, 2013. 2 Replies

The Ledge (2011)

Started by Micah Johnson. Last reply by Craigart14 Sep 1, 2013. 6 Replies

Prometheus?

Started by Marc Draco. Last reply by Eric A Flynn Feb 10, 2013. 6 Replies

Ten Favorite Atheist Films

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by Eric A Flynn Feb 10, 2013. 39 Replies

Cloud Atlas

Started by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2012. 0 Replies

Documentary: "8: The Mormon Proposition"

Started by James M. Martin. Last reply by James M. Martin Jul 29, 2012. 3 Replies

Moneyball

Started by Loren Miller Apr 21, 2012. 0 Replies

Real Steel

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 21, 2012. 2 Replies

How an Iranian film unites us all (CNN)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by TNT666 Feb 21, 2012. 3 Replies

agora best atheist movie?

Started by vondutch. Last reply by Craigart14 Sep 24, 2011. 13 Replies

Most Disappointing Movie Ever

Started by Edward Teach. Last reply by Gabriel Garcia May 29, 2011. 23 Replies

The Cove

Started by TNT666. Last reply by TNT666 Mar 12, 2011. 7 Replies

John Barry is gone

Started by Loren Miller Jan 31, 2011. 0 Replies

A Serious Man

Started by S.A. Alenthony. Last reply by A Former Member Sep 16, 2010. 3 Replies

The Stoning of Soraya M.

Started by Little Name Atheist. Last reply by Little Name Atheist Jul 4, 2010. 12 Replies

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Comment by Marc Draco on September 18, 2011 at 8:35am
Hollywood produces 450 odd movies per year - that's 4500 over the last decade and you cite just one? The other two were not US based; Blind Fury was a remake of "zatoichi", I gather.

Daredevil explains to a point where his power comes from - Eli's is not explained. Close combat fighting is entirely different to firing a gun at someone hundreds of feet away - particularly when they are, fully sighted and firing back at you.

Eli seems impenetrable and untouchable.

Words might give people strength, but that suggests you don't know the bible that well and could learn a lot from other works of wisdom and history. This is, I suspect, what Craig was alluding to in the remark you view as ageism.

Allow me to put it another way, you can be born with great intelligence, but wisdom takes a lifetime.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 18, 2011 at 8:01am

"in the movie, it's rumoured to be the cause of the collapse of society..."

 

I missed that - but I think that's because I was just sitting there agog at all the plot silliness.

The message in Book of Eli is clear - the Bible is a hugely important book and is defended by some supernatural force which allows Eli to shoot with the accuracy of a sniper, at blinding speed while being unable to see; not to mention his superhuman memory.

I read a lot of screenplays - and that takes suspension of disbelief into uncharted territories beyond the ones explored in "The Last Airbender".

Comment by TNT666 on September 18, 2011 at 12:44am
As long as there are millions of books, they all exist in some degree of equality, each book's importance diluted by the vastness of the literary scene. However, in an apocalyptic end of the world scenario where 99.999% percent of books have disappeared, I would certainly place a premium on useful books, and the bible would not make the cut. It is the least useful book ever written. So preserving it would be extremely low on my list of priorities. Now if someone wanted to make a movie about preserving books high school science books, hey, I'd take that long journey.
Comment by Marc Draco on September 17, 2011 at 8:58pm
Vista machines don't do xp well, Craig. Vista is awful. I expect someone should be able to find you a cheap upgrade. Sorry, I'm too tired to comment in more detail
Comment by Craigart14 on September 17, 2011 at 8:46pm

Hey, egan, it's not ageism; it's being aware of an as yet incomplete education.  Besides, we're not judging your comments by your age; we're judging your maturity by your comments.  And the other bit isn't censorship; it's a joke about the often vague and sometimes invisible line between reality and fiction.  Of course, as an atheist, I doubt that there's anything in the KJV worth preserving--except for the Shakespeare reference in Psalm 46, the Book of Job (which believers always seem to muddle), and Ecclesiastes, which Herman Melville once called "the fine, hammered steel of woe."

 

Rakesh Kanuri:  Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt that there's a loose connection; other disks work fine, and other programs work fine.  About halfway through an attempt to install Win XP Home, the laptop freezes.  Could there be a conflict between XP and Vista?  (There seem to be conflicts between Vista and everything else.)  Microsoft sure missed the boat on that one; they should give all Vista owners a free copy of Win 7.

Comment by rakesh kanuri on September 17, 2011 at 12:58am
Craigart14-if your getting blue screen, it is due to loose connections
Comment by Craigart14 on September 16, 2011 at 10:07pm

Regarding the whole Book of Eli thing.  If the filmmakers think that delivering the KJV to a small surviving community of intellectual guardians of knowledge is a good thing, they are wrong.  If I had known Eli was carrying the last surviving copy of the KJV, I would have invaded the movie set and burned it myself.  I don't remember the ending exactly, but is he not speaking from memory when dictating the book?  If he is blind, wouldn't he be reading the Braille?

 

Films, like books, don't always say what the director thinks they say.  In literary studies, we discarded authorial intention with the New Criticism of the 1930s.  Meaning is a collaboration between writer and reader or between filmmaker and viewer.  No author or director can totally control the meaning of a work, so interviews with directors or actors are not the final word on the meaning.  But then, there is no final word save in the minds of unsophisticated critics.

 

It was fun reading this, um, stream.  I've learned that disagreement constitutes an ad hominem attack, and that the vast majority of atheists are irrational trend followers.  It's amazing what we can learn from the younger generation. 

Comment by Craigart14 on September 16, 2011 at 9:52pm

With my computer to TV problem--the sound remains too low to hear through the HDMI connection--a friend suggested I open the sound in control panel and configure it to carry sound over HDMI.  Couldn't access sound controls; rundll32.exe is missing.  So I tried to install a Win XP Home edition I had lying around over Vista, but it would begin the install, then cut to the blue screen of death.  Vista makes it pretty hard to do much of anything; I hate it, but it came with the laptop.  So earlier today I said the hell with it and ordered a Roku streaming box.  I may test the aerodynamics of the laptop over a large body of water.

Comment by TNT666 on September 16, 2011 at 6:02pm

Actually, cutesy Brad self rated himself the opposite ratio :) But said NO NO NO to gods and spirituality, pretty clear, no matter how he chooses to add'em up :)

There are a few 'spiritual atheists' who've commented positively about the TToL on IMDB, but they are few and far apart. The film overwhelmingly reeks of Christian symbolism, mixed in with a little metaphor of outerspace as innerspace BS. I think it ties in nicely with recent discussions on various atheist forums regarding "spiritual atheists".

Comment by Steph S. on September 16, 2011 at 5:57pm
Maybe for the money. How much did he get paid for that role?
 

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