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Started by Philip Jackson Armstrong. Last reply by Philip Jackson Armstrong Aug 15, 2013.
Started by Dave Salyers. Last reply by Napoleon Bonaparte Jul 11, 2013.
Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Steph S. Apr 4, 2012.
Joan - once more Buddha doesn't speak of this mysticism. Only Buddhists. Don't listen to Buddhists. Listen to Buddha to understand. "Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words. Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts. Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances." Buddhism is a philosophy that extends or expands on his teachings. I doubt he would agree with most of it.
I am interested in how Buddhism empowers you to take positive thought and action. The practices give me strength but mysticism really turns me off. What experiences have you had?
No, not at all. I guess this is why it all disgusts me. In a nutshell.
OK, here is my opinion, Laars. The Religious Right in USA wallow in the stories of the Old Testament and follow the New Testament with the belief that their god is the only god and their only god gave them certain rights, like property, slaves, subordination of women, prejudice against people of color. Here are the tools of torture used by religious to gain power and control over others.
Enforcing the Faith – Missionaries or Murderers?
OH I can hear the comments coming by the dozens with my over-generalization.
But just look at our history! Colonials took land from native peoples of the Americas, they brought slaves from Africa, they formed militant groups such as KKK and Arian Nations, all claiming to be christians and the moderate churches remain silent in the face of such nonsense.
These religious zealots believe they have the right to whatever they want and are willing to kill and destroy anyone and anything that gets in the way. ... still silence from moderate churches.
People who do not believe their way are seen as communists, socialists, free-loaders, there were black-lists and people who disagreed with them could not get work. They try to privatize everything from schools to medicine to prisons to water.
They do an excellent job of organizing and got onto school boards, city councils, county and state political positions and start pushing their silly legislation according to their biblical teachings. They bought up the air-waves and news papers and TV stations and censor the news. Many citizens gullibly buy into propaganda while hate mongers ooze out of media. Fox News types and Rush Limbaugh sorts proliferate. Still no outcry from moderate churches.
Intelligent Design started creeping into science classrooms and indoctrination, based on hope in some mythical spirit and fear of some demonic spirit grew and grew and grew until they had their hands on the pursestrings of not only government, but also on business, education, health care and politics. Just look at how much Right Wing Radicals spent on the last election. And still the moderate churches remain silent.
Labor laws began to crumble, Equal Rights for Women failed to pass, there grew to be too many workers for the numbers of jobs available, and the gap between rich and poor began to grow, slowly at first, but faster and faster until we have a "hockey stick" graph of the gap between rich and poor.
God's people feel entitled to be gun toting vigilantes to "protect" their property. Funny, assault riffles seem to qualify as "protection."
The definition of love is distorted by beliefs and faiths of people who follow Bronze Age tribal camel herders and their teachings. They don't seem to realize the world is moving on into a new realm of personal and interpersonal relationships. Control and power over is not working and it hasn't for a long time. Competition is throwback to times when bows and arrow, maces, swords, and guns, determined who was victor. It seems dead bodies and destroyed cultures, made possible by atomic and nuclear weapons, result in victory for no one. And the mainline churches remain silent... No they don't! they cheer our young men and women as they march off to war pretending they fight to protect our nation. That is pure nonsense. Just look at where the wars occur, what resources they have that we want.
And silliest of all, an theist has a very tough time getting elected; in fact, most atheist realize it isn't worth the effort. Well, we will see. The mainline churches continue to support warring. "Onward Christian Soldier" seems to be sung a lot by little old grandparents, parents, and spouses for their men and women who go to imperial wars.
Well, that is my opinion; sorry you asked?
Soooo,changing topic here.
It would seem the more godless friends I have they seem to be, are against or at the very least do not want a gun. Why to god and guns go together so often if you are supposed to love ye one another? Love thy neighbor? Blah de blah.
I almost fell for the gun "battle" (no pun intended) saying it's about "control" and not prohibition, but I may as well be talking Atheism...same diff.
ps: I am for control, though I hate the perceived necessity for weapons unless you are related to law, military, or politics. If you are so geared towards protecting your stuff then you either live in the wrong place, or there is vast wealth inequity.
Thank you Laars, I and many family and friends come here for contemplation and a nice cup of tea. The design supports meditation.
What a lovely sanctuary, Joan!
Laars, the one entitled "Geometric Garden Designs" is not my garden but has many design ideas.
Laars Zwarte, go to Joan Denoo's photo albums, there are several scattered throughout the album section.
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