Comment by Sayed Iman Rafizadeh on September 4, 2012 at 9:50pm

Sufis have been widely discriminated in Mid East, however there are many branches of Sufism and It is very hard to find a right one like Al-Hallaj now.

Comment by ryan leman on September 6, 2012 at 10:43am

Eh i just hope there isn't another satanic panic from any theistic religions. For me that would be a pain in my ass, if i get in the Marines and start my life it won't be as much a pain but it'll still be a noticeable annoyance. Only reason i bring it up is the upcoming election, I think that if Romney gets elected there will be a higher morale for the mormon religion and i tend to worry a little when religious morale is high especially in an already powerful religion because thats when religious bias, persecutions, and signs of growing tensions tend to be more socially acceptable and sometimes rewarded socially of course. Although i doubt the election alone could start this higher degree of religious morale i think it does set a stage that would raise the possibility of such an event to happen (like bring back importance in what is and isn't the politically right way to act based on what is the religiously right way to act). Does anyone feel the same? or have we progressed so much it just wouldn't happen now

Comment by James M. Martin on September 6, 2012 at 5:46pm

@ryan.  Don't worry, they have so marignalized the pagan faiths, including Luciferianism, that none of the evangelical theocrats is going to round them up and build a fire of faggot kindling.  No, it is the non-believers who will be victimized this time around.  We will be blamed for 9/11 and all manner of unfortunate events because the pols are dumbing down the electorate; one version of the GOP platform even includes a push to rid schools of "critical thinking" curricula.  That way, you can blame 9/11 on the non-believers "because" they represent just the sort of thing that would give the U.S. a bad press in places like Riyadh, Tehran, and other places, apostacy being the very worst of all possible crimes wherever Shariah prevails.

Comment by Sayed Iman Rafizadeh on September 6, 2012 at 6:44pm

We non-believers strongly go ahead. Governments always try to push their agenda; Sometimes by religion and suppression, and sometimes by freedom and democracy.  People also see the surface of any political movements. Hegel says: “What experience and history teaches us is that people and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted on principles deduced from it.”

Comment by James M. Martin on September 6, 2012 at 6:51pm

Hegel was channeling Santayana.

Comment by Sayed Iman Rafizadeh on September 6, 2012 at 7:05pm

Probably, one and half century before Santayana in Germany

Comment by James M. Martin on September 6, 2012 at 7:06pm

Nope.  In quantum theoretical space-time they both existed at exactly the same time.

Comment by Sayed Iman Rafizadeh on September 6, 2012 at 7:11pm

Nice one!

Comment by ryan leman on September 7, 2012 at 10:16am

Well im Laveyan which is an atheist religion (we don't believe in any super natural deity) so when specificly atheist get slammed we tend to take a lesser hit from those who are smart enough in there research to understand that we are atheist. But even than if they don't know we are atheist than we are heretics so ether way we are hit with the only buffer to the young actual Laveyans who people think they are just rebelling (hence why i said "actual" because alot of morons get involved in the religion just to rebel which is annoying). So yah sadly when atheist suffer from popularized stupidity i suffer to, more or less depending on how specific there target is and even if its strictly specificly aimed at atheist we just get hit by the smarter religious individual but in most cases its not that specific to where we won't still be hit by apparently being direct evil "goooo satan" heretics.

Comment by Ibrahim on September 11, 2012 at 3:44pm

http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/new-atheists hey I agree and I love your group.You might also like my group in the link above.

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