What's wrong with there being theists in the world? As long as they're not forcing you to join them, it's ok, right? ..Wrong.. This group is to share thoughts about the dangers of theism -- and through the discussion, to be armed to enlighten others.

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A happy median?

Started by Noh Name. Last reply by Tonya Wynn Dec 19, 2013. 7 Replies

I've tried not to be hostile towards theism, not that I think it is something to be tolerated or protected, but bc I once was a theist.  I know that if an anti-theist like Hitchens would get going I…Continue

My new Youtube channel "Saving You From Your Religion"

Started by Shane Starr. Last reply by Tonya Wynn Dec 19, 2013. 2 Replies

So I had a run in with one of those bible thumping "I'm going to save the world for jesus" types today in a restaurant and after much debate I decided to start a YouTube channel to vent some of my…Continue

Atheist v Anti-theist

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Joan Denoo Dec 13, 2013. 5 Replies

Good blog to read feel it’s time I clarify…Continue

what I believe

Started by Becoming Other. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 17, 2012. 3 Replies people often cannot face the repressed pain in their own…Continue

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Comment by Alan Perlman on June 6, 2012 at 1:20pm

Religion is at the same time the benefactor of immense social approval and the cause of immeasurable misery.  It is not enough to just be an atheist.  We must actively oppose religion, its bigotries and other horrors, or it will, as Bill Maher suggests, be the end of us.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 17, 2012 at 12:12pm

Patricia that has been my experience as well: not bring up religion, but others start and I give my best reasoning. With some, it is easy for me to stay calm and even have a little fun with questions, like, "Do you really believe ...?" My dear cousin warns her husband not to bring up religion (he is "born again") and we are not together more than "Hello, how are you?" and he starts. He tries his very best. He then goes on a hunt for some pretty or different or unique bird house and the next time we are together he gives it to me, kind of a peace offering. And the cycle begins again. My back yard has many splendid bird houses. I enjoy our debates. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 15, 2012 at 7:22pm

Silence has never been a benefit for me. I am glad to know there are others who are able and willing to take a stand. Your technique is sound! I like having a reputation .... that cuts down on idiot talk. 

Comment by Patricia on February 10, 2012 at 1:21pm

For myself Joan, I agree! I am not a 'kind, tolerant, patient' person & never 'hid in a closet' or kept 'quiet' over not believing crap. I am not the one who brings the subject up, but if someone says something to me about their fairy-tale beliefs, I'll jump right in & tell them I don't buy it & it's best to keep 'that' subject off limits to avoid quarreling if nothing else.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 9, 2012 at 11:48pm

There are those who state we should be tolerant of intolerable  behavior and I see no compelling reason why we should be kind or patient or accepting of behavior that is intolerable. It is a sign of disrespect to not be honest with those who behave badly or say outrageous things, or believe myths or superstitions. Being tolerant of intolerable behavior is cowardliness, faint-heartedness.  

Comment by Sandy on January 10, 2011 at 5:49am
Thanks Jack. I love the strapline - The Ethical Imperative.
Comment by Patricia on January 9, 2011 at 2:41pm
This is a great idea, Jack! Thanks!
Comment by Jack Ryan on January 9, 2011 at 7:51am

I created a digital badge for those who'd like to identify oneself as an anti-theist. If you like that badge, you can use it for any desired purpose. For suggestions feel free to send me a note.



Comment by Jack Ryan on August 18, 2010 at 1:13pm
In a fascistic controlled society it is not sufficient just not to be a fascist, but rather it is compellingly necessary to be an anti-fascist. Just as in a racist society it is insufficient not to be a racist, but being an anti-racist is ethically required.

Similarly to the necessity for anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-speciesism etc. (which is in view of the parallels hard to deny) it is in our theistic dominated world absolutely insufficient just being atheistic.
Of course it's better being an atheist, instead of sharing the religious delusion. But atheism is not enough. Moreover it is necessary to act against theism. In contrast to the actual existing theism, antitheism is for ethically thinking and acting humans a must, an ethical imperative.

The consequences of theism still are and always were devastating, regional as well as global. Whether religious wars, the crusades, indoctrination of children, genocide, tendency protection, omnipresent religious torture scenes, witch hunts, racism, slavery, or simply the Christmas television program. It is inevitable to fight for the separation of church and state, against the excrescences of religion, and the right not to be bothered by the scheming of the theists.

Of course antitheism does not mean a “persecution” of god believers (it is amazing that those people already associate this with simple atheism, the absence of believe in deities). Antitheism means rather to enlighten about reality, both scientifically and politically/historically. As much as it is necessary to tell children and teenagers (who believe in the baby-delivering stork) about the actual procedures in order to avoid or at least minimize unwanted pregnancies or that there is no Santa Claus, people must also be informed that it is not a God, who hurl lightnings or give them their daily bread wondrously.
Comment by Patricia on April 23, 2010 at 2:11am
One of the churches here doesn't seem very popular anymore....wonder why!

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