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John, THANK YOU FOR THE 411.
Bill H.R. 1540 passed last night with a nearly unanimous vote. For those of you living under rocks, this bill is the National Defense Authorization Act, which is renewed every year, but which this year includes the declaration that "the entire USA is a “battleground” upon which U.S. military forces can operate with impunity, overriding Posse Comitatus and granting the military the unchecked power to arrest, detain, interrogate and even assassinate U.S. citizens with impunity." - source
The bill merely awaits Obama's signature, and although he has threatened to veto it, here is proof from CSPAN2 that the language exempting Americans from military impunity was removed AT HIS REQUEST. He will pass this bill, and America will officially become a military dictatorship. This will mean that, on suspicion of support for any entity that opposes US doctrine, you may be arrested, detained without trial, tortured and killed.
We have a few days before the bill is signed into law. I urge everyone to raise as much of a fuss as you possibly can, because it will be illegal for you to raise a fuss after the bill is signed. I also urge everyone to become non-cooperative with this government. Stop paying your taxes, stop paying your mortgage, pull your money out of the stock market and buy precious metals, and become as self-sufficient as you possibly can. Help and encourage others to do so as well. You are the only one who can protect each other: the police and military are now your enemies! Load your guns and discuss emergency plans with your freinds, family and neighbors. We are on our own.
Good luck to all of you.
As if it's that easy to get off the grid, anyhow... how is one to survive?
Yeah, that's exactly the type of shit I'm talking about. In fact, I just made that same argument to someone who suggested I get off the grid instead of complaining about society. If anyone is interrested, I took this topic to another site, where it has taken off in greater detail, with some well-informed contributors. The link is here
There is a decent parallel to the advent of air travel. In the sixties, the planes weren't full, the food/service was great, the bureaucracy/red-tape was minimal, FLYING WAS GREAT. Air travel was the great liberator, today, it is completely controlled and profiled and integrated with borders, immigration, customs, police, flight information. All this information is digitally cross-referenced, errors and unfairness included.
You mention getting off the grid... I don't believe that's really possible any more. They now use heat sensing satellite data to track pot plantations in the middle of forests in the middle of nowhere. At this point in civilisation, if the powers that be want to find you, they will... :(
I think for the first few decades of its life, the internet grew too quickly for its creators to control it, and the younger generation's ability to manipulate it outstripped anyone else's ability prevent them. But now they are figuring out ways to lock the internet down, and once it's locked down, the temporary freedom it has provided will be gone. We are alive in a rare time, where we actually got to experience what it was like to be uncontrolable. If we don't fight to keep that state of affairs, we may never experience it again. Check out these articles:
1. Uncle Sam wants to pit hackers against hackers
2. TOR files used to establish a massive government spy network
Exactly, information technology, in the end, serves power, not the people. The information highway it was for its first decade of life was no different from a drug pusher's front, to get people hooked to the drug. Now the axe starts to fall.
Sure, but what happens when your internet gets shut down? That's what's happening in China, in Syria, in Iran, in North Korea, and guess who provides the technology to do that? US. Tht signifies to me that our government is testing the efficacy of these devices elsewhere, where thye don't care if civil unrest is the result because that just strengthens their positions anyway. And once the kinks are worked out, and SOPA passes, they'll be deploying that equipment right here, and there goes your social communication tools. There goes any power the people have to organize and rebel against the atrocities.
I tend to be less worried about technology than most people, because it looks like most of the nasty stuff is very expensive to build and energy-intensive to use, whereas the communications and computer technology that tends to impower individuals more that it empowers groups gets cheaper to build and more energy-thrifty all the time...
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