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Permalink Reply by Brandon Givens on March 31, 2011 at 5:47am

There's a support group called Recovering from religion. They have a page here. Darrel Ray of the God Virus started or helped start it. Their focus is helping people overcome the pain of having been raised spiritually. They may help.

Permalink Reply by New Atheist on April 2, 2011 at 1:55am

Thanks Brandon!

Permalink Reply by Kim Morgan on March 31, 2011 at 8:29am

I've heard that there are secular groups out there, but I haven't been able to find them in my area of the deep south. I've resisted going to Al-Anon meetings for years because they're always held in churches and while they may say they're not Christian, they DO rely on a higher power. I've had the same... problem... going to AA meetings with my mother - and having to say the Lord's Prayer at the end of every meeting. In addition to all that, my mother is in recovery and she flat out told me not to tell her case worker that I'm an atheist because then she might not be able to see me. Sigh....

Permalink Reply by New Atheist on April 2, 2011 at 1:57am

I know what you mean about 12 Step programs.  They didn't bother me when I was religious, but they're so fixated on the concept of a higher power and saying prayers.  Wow, that sucks about having to lie about yourself :(

Permalink Reply by New Atheist on April 2, 2011 at 2:06am

I guess I'm also wondering if there are any church v. state regulations regarding non-faith-based support groups.  Or if any atheist groups are working towards that goal of having the right to secular support groups. 

 

I think it would be something worth pursuing, particularly challenging the widely held opinion that spirituality is such a wonderful tool that is either positive or neutral.  Every place uses it, because no one is writing books that it can be detrimental to recovery. 

Permalink Reply by Tonya Wynn on April 11, 2011 at 12:24pm

Read Nathaniel Branden, an atheist psychologist, who was Ayn Rand's lover and in her group.  He's a best-selling author of self-help books and the books are great IF you use them.  I actually need to use them more..I used to once a week, but got lazy.  They make you PRO-active vs. RE-active.

Permalink Reply by New Atheist on April 17, 2011 at 11:33pm

Thanks Tonya!  I'm not sure if I found the right Nathanial Branden because this book says "reflections on self-esteem and spirituality."  I wouldn't have thought someone involved with Ayn Rand would be reflecting on spirituality.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Nathaniel-Brandens-Self-Esteem-Every-Day/dp/0...