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Yes there is no God, but dont tell the maid.

some times i find its not helpful to discuss atheism with believers or trying to convert them

, maybe to keep them working hard in this life , let them live with hoop

some times im not sure they will be good humans without believing in some God watching them....

like Nietzsche said:yes there is no god but dont tell the maid ..she willl steal the household :)

trying hard to write good english :)

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Permalink Reply by Joe Henry on April 13, 2010 at 6:51pm

I just saw a talk by Ron Lindsey the other day and he did a whole section on morality for the Godless. People across all cultures seem to have some basic forms of decency no matter what God they seem to think watches them. This leads to the conclusion that people do have some sort of natural inclination to not do certain actions: baby killing, slaughter of family members. So his idea is to start at a base line for things that that VAST majority of us can agree on and then work from their to define our societal morality. I do agree with you in certain cases I would much rather have a Born Again Jesus Freak preaching to me then trying to steal the stereo from my car for drugs. Your English is much better then mine and I am from America :).

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Permalink Reply by Fahad al on April 27, 2010 at 8:13am

it will be better I promise :) thanks

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Permalink Reply by Turtle Poser on April 13, 2010 at 11:23pm

Saudi? You must be the bravest guy on this site!

There have been a few Muslims who tried to convert me, not as many as Christians. I almost converted back in college. My friends were liberal, Malaysian Muslims who partied, drank beer, etc. However, if I decided to not be a Muslim I could be killed (not by the Malaysian Muslims - they were amazing), but by fanatics.

Like I said, you are very brave. Shakespeare, "To Thine Own Self Be True."

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Permalink Reply by Fahad al on April 27, 2010 at 8:11am

thanks , but i dont think im alone on this in all society's taking such decision will make you lose respect ,or friends sometimes ...but as you said you win your self

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Permalink Reply by Fahad al on April 27, 2010 at 8:11am

thanks i will be there

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Permalink Reply by H.Q. on August 11, 2010 at 3:49pm

Heyy, a fellow Saudi Atheist :)it's always nice to see a Saudi here .

i get your point on people needing religion. but i think this comes from long term brainwashing .
people who are told since childhood that God watches over them and counts their deeds will keep on connecting morals to God . so if they loose God , they will loose morals and maybe become lazy . this is the problem with teaching children about religion at such a young age . they grow up to be inspired by Gods presence relating their actions to him. their morals become their idea of God .

ps. i too put my name up here then decided it would be better off to put my initials .jusst incase!