I love this quote from Penn Jillette and a wonderful interview.
The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine. I don't want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don't want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you. You know what I mean?
Ron Bennington: Now what do you say to people though that say, whether or not there’s an afterlife, it’s still important to have this because it keeps us morally based, it keeps us family based and even at the end of this life, if nothing happens, it’s still good to have these set of rules.
Penn Jillette: Well, you know, God told Abraham to kill his son, and his proof of Abraham’s devotion was his willingness to kill his son. Jesus says very clearly, “abandon your father and mother, abandon your children and come with me.” There’s nothing pro-family about Christianity. That is all layered on. That is all-American. The American Christian church has a great deal of family values, but those aren’t found in the Bible, those aren’t in the root material. We have a lot of evidence, [Christopher] Hitchens, a good friend of mine, we miss him all the time, but Hitchens had a standing offer for a religious person to name a moral thing that was done in the name of religion that had not been done by an atheist. All of your self-sacrifice, all of the help for communities, have all been done by religious people and by atheists. But I’ll tell one story that I just love, I brought a date once, because this is the kind of guy I am, to hear an atheist speaker. We’re sitting there in a college-type atmosphere, probably about 150 people in the audience, and I even forgot who it was speaking because there were a lot of people that day, it might have been [Michael] Shermer, and he speaks and he finished and he opens the floor up to questions. The person on the other side of my date stands up and says, “Well if there’s no God, what’s to stop me from raping and killing everyone around me?” And my date raised her hand and said, “May I change my seat?” [Laughter]
Ron Bennington: But maybe it’s because we distrust each other, we’re so afraid of other humans, that we have that, you know?
Penn Jillette: It’s amazing, and I always bring this up, that religion is for people who kind of at some level don’t like people. And I love people. And I think if you take the 7 billion people on the planet and you round it off, about 7 billion of them are good. To find bad people is really difficult. Not people doing bad things, but really bad people who get up in the morning and say, How can I fuck people up? That’s a really rare thing. Misguided, you know, mistaken, but I just can’t understand how this view of humanity that all we want to do is horrible things to each other and it’s just this belief in something else that stops us. And that that is what you see over and over again through the Bible. There’s reward and punishment but there’s no – I mean, nothing feels better than helping someone out. I mean, there’s nothing better, nothing better in the world than someone whose life was fucked up and you do a little something and now their life isn’t. I mean, you can talk about the joy of sex, hedonistic joys of food, and you can talk about the joy with your children, but man, someone is going through a hard time and you help them out, man you feel good for months.
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This is one of the most absurd accusations against Atheists. Atheists don't have any supernatural, external influences to blame for their bad behaviour. I cannot blame the Devil. I don't believe he exists! Atheism is a set of beliefs that does not depend on absolution or eternal life. As an Atheist I have had to accept the fact that I'm going to die and that will be a total end to life. I have also have had to accept the fact I am ultimately responsible for my thoughts, utterances and thoughts. I have no supernatural demons to shag the responsibility onto. I am amazed at the duplicitous rationalizations of idealists to blame behaviour they are guilty of onto Atheists.
This reminds me of the wailing of muslims in Quebec about the Charter of Secular Values. How does the group of zealots who shot Malala in the head get to wave their symbols around in our democracy in the name of tolerance.
Peter, you cannot blame the devil because he is part of the mythos that god came from. If there is no god how can there be a devil?
I agree with you Peter ... Atheists don't believe in anything supernatural.
Let's not forget our own too-recent past.
Here in an allegedly enlightened California, marital rape became a crime only a few years ago.
As I recall, Oregon may have been the first state to make it a crime.
What's the situation in other states?
On C-SPAN yesterday, a Latina Republican activist (who in 2012 supported Jon Huntsman) speaking in New Hampshire (that's Kelly Ayotte country and when she was NH Atty-Gen was no friend to women) said her Party should require its male members to take a course in the female reproductive system.
She added that male Republican candidates should mention the word rape only in a criminal context.
Firstly...if you "WANT" to rape.....you should evolve a wee bit more.
Wee = A Big Bunch
"Negroid minister" and "Caucasian Catholic" from who? This is an old forum but those words sure as hell didn't come from me. I have no reason to write stuff like that. It makes no sense to me at all!
Randall Wood, Mike (Dennis) did not use those words!! Make sure you know who you are quoting before you attribute something to someone!
Hey, Randall Wood. My words didn't include any of what you are saying here. I have done some reading on this old forum now and found that the remarks were made by DyslexicDOG. Not sure what it was about really, but this was apparently some attemp to trace down John Johnson and his remarks on doing so.
You mean there is no gawd! Well, it's time to start raping women and robbing those banks.
What a band of frigging losers their "heaven" is going to be. You would think that any moron could see this, but there must be several types of moron. Maybe even a missing link.
Yes Michael, unfortunately some believers think that without superstition and myths to believe in we all rob banks and rape and terrorize the city. It is really silly thinking.