Is there anything more insane than a Christian woman? Comedian Dusty Smith looks at what the bible actually says about women and explores why any rational woman would put up with this ridiculous bs.

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A woman might well be OK with an evolved Christianity that doesn't have the misogynistic and sexist BS, that recognizes that scriptural crap as being as immoral as, say, slavery and genocide. There are denominations that have women not only as priests or ministers, but also in higher positions of leadership and authority -- the Episcopal Church (USA) is currently headed by a woman Presiding Bishop.

Why would any woman be a xtian?

Why would any gay person be a xtian?

Why would any woman be a muslim?

These are bizarre situations which have no answer as far as I'm concerned.

agreed

Childhood indoctrination does it, enslaving the mind of many women forever---especially Muslims.

As for the Jews....I quote a Jewish source on the Internet: 

"Few Jewish religious texts have provoked as much indignation and discomfort as the brief passage that is recited by traditional Jewish men at the beginning of the daily morning prayers: "Blessed are you, Lord, our God, ruler the universe who has not created me a woman." For many, it expresses a quintessential misogyny that lies at the core of our patriarchal religion. 

The text in question appears as part of a sequence of blessings, found in the Talmud, that are meant to accompany activities that are performed in the course of waking up in the morning, such as hearing the first cock-crow, opening one's eyes, stepping on the ground, getting dressed, etc.............................etc"

Childhood indoctrination into arbitrary gender roles as "natural" and "normal"....

The corresponding morning prayer for traditional Jewish women is "Blessed are you ... who has created me according to his will."

The traditional Orthodox explanation of that prayer has always rung hollow for me: men are supposed to be glad to have the opportunity and requirement to obey more commandments. In that belief system, women's responsibilities as wives and mothers exempt them from the "thou shalts" connected to particular times of day or year, such as the three daily prayer services.

Funny that it's the men who made those rules!

("I'm so glad I'm a Beta, I'm so glad I'm a Beta....")

Other movements of Judaism -- Reform, Reconstructionist, Jewish Renewal, etc. and most Conservative congregations -- have dispensed with the historical sexism. Like the more progressive Christian denominations, they ordain people of any gender as clergy, and accept them as leaders.

I had a friend with 2 disabled sons.  I told her the bible said they aren't good enough to go up to the alter and give offerings to "god."  She said she had read that, but who was She to question the bible.  I practically yelled at her "YOU ARE THEIR MOTHER!"  She still became a fundie, and we aren't friends anymore.

Good decision there Booklover - how can she continue to believe that? Just crazy

Yep, she's crazy Steph.  I just can't be around fundies.  We used to spend SO much time together, then she joined that church and POOF our friendship ended.

I like UR question Steph S.I hope U get lots of response.

I was a mainstream evangelical Christian until recently so I think I can answer this in a very scary way:

1) The ability of the human mind to rationalize is almost infinite. Most Christian women are familiar with these verses, but put them into a untouchable box in their head. The box has signs all over it: "This was for another time," "This doesn't apply today," "We are not properly interpreting it," or "We've learned more about God's will since then," etc. I know there are crazy fundamentalists who have specific authority roles, etc., but I'm from California and I don't see that here. Most Christian women I know are treated with respect and as equals by the men in their lives, and they demand that respect.

2) The ability of the human mind to be fooled is almost infinite. Religion tends to take credit for everything good around it, and people are easily convinced by this claim. Today's mainstream Christianity has clearly borrowed better assumptions from modern moral sensibilities and the Enlightenment, but then takes credit for introducing those better assumptions! Most of my religious women friends are very happy in their egalitarian marriages and leadership roles in church, and they truly believe it all stems from their Christian belief system.

That is how a "sane" woman can be a Christian.

That needs to be repeated far and wide!

Today's mainstream Christianity [and Judaism, and other religions, have] clearly borrowed better assumptions from modern moral sensibilities and the Enlightenment.

Occasionally a religion will, to its credit, actually recognize that. From the principles and purposes of the Unitarian Universalist Association:

"The living tradition which we share draws from many sources: [...]

[#5 of 6 sources:]  Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit. [...]"

Beats me, Blacks too, why, the bibel doesn't like either, women are treated like dirt (no connection to how man was supposed to be here according to it) and it also doesn't mind slavery which I would have thought would be a turn off for Blacks. It's a psychotic, delusional, vicious book, not a moral one. Anyone that read the whole thing I would think would throw the damn thing away, not try to follow it.

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