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Permalink Reply by Riaz Ahmed Shah on July 16, 2009 at 1:26pm

Read Will Durant's "The Story of Philosophy" ,it was written in 1926 and is considered a classic in introductory philosophy
and then you can try Bertrand Russell's "History of Western Philosophy",another classic written way back in 40s.
From then onwards you can explore philosophy on your own whim

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Permalink Reply by Dawn K on July 20, 2009 at 10:39am

should decide which subject areas they want to explore.

This is what I'm thinking too. There's going to be a lot in the field that is just not of interest (to me) or is completely over my head. Once I figure out where to start I can go from there. I'm also interested in ethics. I bought Kurtz "Forbidden Fruit: The Ethics of Secularism" after reading just a few pages of the prologue because it was relevant and seemed easy enough to follow. Haven't read much of it yet.

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Permalink Reply by mthoreau on July 17, 2009 at 3:53am

As an Atheist, I think you might enjoy Baruch Spinoza (although he wasn't quite an atheist). I'd get a Spinoza reader or something because Ethics can get very very tedious. Sarte is also a good choice.

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Permalink Reply by Dawn K on July 20, 2009 at 10:35am

Thanks so much for the suggestions! "The Story of Philosophy" sounds like just what I'm looking for as a start.

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Permalink Reply by Anette on July 24, 2009 at 6:26pm

The best introduction to philosophy I've ever read, is Sophies World.

It's a book that describes the history of philisophical thought, in the form of a novel IE Fiction.

It's gives a very good overview of the different branches and is fun to read.

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Permalink Reply by Dawn K on July 27, 2009 at 7:32pm

Thanks Anette. I'm looking at the reviews of Sophie's World on Amazon.

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Permalink Reply by Anette on July 30, 2009 at 4:56am

You're welcome. I like it, because it really is a great overview of everything and it's quite a fun read(like a mystery novel, with a philosophical twist) and it's not heavy at all.

Trying to dive into philosophy without any background is difficult because knowlege is usually assumed by the author, especially if the author is a well known philosopher like Russell.

So try something light and fun to get the mental juices flowing :)

Edited to say: If you are looking also for something that is more about the "why" of philosophy rather than the history(since you are starting down a learning path), a book I'm currently reading which is excellent, is "The questions of Life" - an invitation to Philosophy, by Fernando Savater.

I'm liking it, because it really invites you into the world of philisophical thinking, and what this can do for you in your own life. Why do we have this discipline of study in our socieities? It is not however a book on the history of philosophy, but it's a lovely read and also gets you thinking about why this subject is so interesting.

Cheers

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Permalink Reply by Nate on July 27, 2009 at 7:59pm

I too recommend Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy.

Spinoza is one of my favorites. If he wasn't an atheist he was pretty damn close. He believed in a "God existing in only a philosophical sense".

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Permalink Reply by D'Holbach on July 27, 2009 at 10:15pm

I second, or "third," the recommendation of Bertrand Russell's History of Western Philosophy. Russell is a bit dismissive of philosophers he doesn't especially like (Kant, for instance), but he's clear and succinct.

I also agree with Nate and mthoreau that Spinoza is marvelous, but his writing is hard--and I say that as a diligent reader of thorny prose. He was writing not to be understand by all of his readers. In the seventeenth century, it was dangerous to express unorthodox views in a straightforward manner, even in the relatively tolerant country of Holland, where Spinoza lived; so he was deliberately cryptic in his work. I would suggest that you read some other philosophers first.

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Permalink Reply by Chrys Stevenson on July 30, 2009 at 5:15am

As a basic and enjoyable primer, pick up a copy of the novel, Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder.

"Mostly consisting of dialogues between Sophie Amundsen and a mysterious man named Alberto Knox, interwoven with an increasingly bizarre and mysterious plot, Sophie's World acts as both a novel and a basic guide to philosophy."

It's a fun read and also educational.

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Permalink Reply by Nate on July 30, 2009 at 9:34am

I think Thomas is "far too biased to be truly useful".

Just kidding, Thomas.

Mostly.

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Permalink Reply by D'Holbach on July 30, 2009 at 11:50am

Thomas, I agree with you that Russell is biased, but I'm not sure that his bias makes him useless. All historians of philosophy write from a slant; Russell's "angle" is so blatant that it's relatively easy to adjust for.

I want to second your nomination of Hume (Russell would agree with you!), but I'm a bit troubled by your dismissal of history as "old stuff"--Americans say that sort of thing all the time, and they often pay a high price for their shallowness. I think that there are good reasons, for instance, that many philosophers are returning to Spinoza and his work these days. That's a topic for a different thread, however.

For Dawn, I'll add a couple of titles that provide good, concise "overviews" of philosophy, including modern philosophy: Thomas Nagel's What Does It All Mean? and Simon Blackburn's Think.

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