Permalink Reply by Engl on June 10, 2012 at 11:54pm No one has the right to. But the people around them have a way of bringing that to fruition. I guess it depends on the culture that you're in.
Again, no one has the right to put any married couple asunder... :D
No one has any "rights" that cannot be violated by other individuals. Still, some actions are inherently "not right". Some times force is the only way to protect what you believe is right. Sadly, force usually invites a counter force of disproportionate strength. Skillful dialogue may be your greatest tool for forging connections with others that disagree with your ideal of what is right. "Quid pro Quo" has its place as well.
On the other hand, they can't very well break up a marriage that they are not aware of. Some ties should be severed if they are pulling you under the surface. Make sure that you evaluate ALL of the consequences carefully before acting.
Good Luck ;)
Permalink Reply by dr kellie on July 3, 2012 at 4:14pm Why is it wrong for a brother and sister to want to get married and spend their lives together? If they are both adults and realize that they should not have children, why would anyone care? My gut reaction is, "gross", but what difference does that make?
Suppose a brother and sister had never met until udulthood and they became mates without knowing. Is there something wrong with that?
I know this might open up a whole new can of worms, but what the hell.
Permalink Reply by Prog Rock Girl on July 3, 2012 at 4:16pm Yes..."gross" is not always the same as "immoral". Having children would be immoral because it could hurt the children genetically.
Permalink Reply by A. R. on June 12, 2012 at 10:30pm In a modern and civilized society, no adult(s) has de-facto rights over other adult(s). So the answer is a "Hell no". But as we all know, there are cases where even laws are passed preventing consenting adults to marry... and I am sure you all know what I am talking about.
Permalink Reply by Secular Forces 2013 on July 2, 2012 at 8:16am
Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on July 3, 2012 at 6:11am Couple of questions:
Regardless if we're referring to interracial marriage or gay marriage, there is no RATIONAL reason to prevent such unions. Mostly the "reasons" opponents of these marriages come up with amount to fear, fear of something different, fear of a break with the former homogeneity of the existing culture. Sorry, not good enough.
The harm in such a union as perceived by bigoted members relates to the first question. Again, fear of change from the status quo or what some holy book has taught them. Again, none of this rises to the level of genuine harm.
As for the society itself, is this a democratic society or an autocratic dictatorship? Do all members of this culture have the opportunity to contribute and have input on its structure, or are the rules pronounced ex officio or ex cathedra as unquestioned truth? Most importantly, does the minority exercise its franchise without coercion or are they to be crushed by the tyranny of the majority? Autocracy rarely if ever respects any other sensibilities other than its own, whereas democracy gives breathing room to all and authors laws to maintain order fairly while respecting the rights of the individual.
Personally, I don't see any of the above questions as being trivial or rhetorical. Certainly, any society could arrogate the power you suggest to break unions because it wants to. Whether any genuine GOOD comes from such action, however, is debatable at best.
Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 21, 2013 at 2:37pm 0 Comments 0 Likes
There is a video of the Pope's 'exorcism' caught on film. The man isn't demon possessed, there are likely no 'real' demons. He's just delusional and doesn't want to accept personal responsiblity for his own behavior for his own dysfunctional life.
Brandi Amari Williams
Posted by Debra Stevenson on May 21, 2013 at 2:28pm 2 Comments 1 Like
There is an ad that reads ' Do you support 'traditional' marriage? Vote Now"! .
No, I don't support 'traditional' marriage because there is no such thing. I support heterosexual and same-sex couples marry each other legally , yes. 'Traditional' marriage promoters largely do not believe that heterosexual women are co-equal to their husbands. Their only purpose in 'traditional' marriage is to sexually satisfy their husbands if they can and raise children and do all…
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i've got no problem with everyone saying "merry christmas" on christmas day. however, they've turned it into an entire holiday season where it lasts a month or more. in those situations it should be perfectly acceptable to say "happy holidays" or call it a…
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I posted the bulk of this on another thread, but wanted to add some context separately.
I finally confronted my faith and embraced the fact of my atheism late last August, 2012. Days after I revealed my "epiphany" to a few friends who knew me from another message board, my sister died from Lou Gehrig's Disease (which pissed her off because she hated catching a disease from someone she never f---ed).
THAT was my sister, understand? She was a beautiful, life-loving, potty-mouthed…
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