I start a new thread as a reaction to MADHUKAR KULKARNI's claim, that India were a secular coutnry.

I consider a country as secular, when

  • there are no laws or rules based on or influenced by religious and similarly irrational beliefs.
  • there are laws and rules protecting people from being harmed by behavior caused by religious and similarly irrational beliefs.   These rules are enforced.
  • no tax payer's money or publicly owned property is used in favor of religious and similarly irrational beliefs.


The number of secular citizens does not make a country secular.

I am not sure, if there is any fully secular country on earth.

Germany is not a secular country.  As an example, shops are closed on Sundays by law for religious reasons.

India is not a secular country.
- Cows causing traffic chaos are not removed, because they are considered as sacred.
- Astrology is taught in universities.
- People are allowed to bathe in the sewage water of the river Ganges and spread diseases, because the bath in the water is an expression of a religious.

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India is clearly NOT a secular country.  Religion has many privileges above the law.  The Ganges River is extremely polluted and is continually ranked as one of the top polluted rivers of the world.  If it were happening in most European countries then the law would step in and prevent people from bathing in it, but because of religious privilege, the practises continue.  If you want verification then just type in "Ganges River pollution" into Google and be ready to be shocked.

Secularism is the separation of Religion from State.  In practise, of course, things are more complicated because people who are part of the state will be influenced by religion.  However, in legal terms, ALL people, with or without faith, should be treated equally before the state law.  Religion should not have privileges above the law and no state money should be given to religion.

I dream of the day when that becomes true;)

Richard Francis

India is clearly NOT a secular country.

Don't load your definitions on secularism and India.

John D

Thanks John. I accept what you say. 

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