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What if there is a god?
Has anyone here every thought about what if there happened to be a god. It doesn't really matter what god or what religion just if there is one. When you die what do you think they/him/her would say and how you would react? If they were a god that passed judgment, do you think that they would understand your reasons for not believing and forgive you or would they punish you without question?
I was raised Christian and while I don't believe anything they say, the above still crosses my mind quite often. I'm a musician and I get a lot of gigs playing for church services, especially around Christmas and Easter. It's hard not to listen to the sermon and try to understand their way of thinking during these times and these questions always pop into my mind during and after the service.
I was raised Christian and while I don't believe anything they say, the above still crosses my mind quite often. I'm a musician and I get a lot of gigs playing for church services, especially around Christmas and Easter. It's hard not to listen to the sermon and try to understand their way of thinking during these times and these questions always pop into my mind during and after the service.
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Permalink Reply by Ogden Lafaye on -
"Christianity, in my opinion, is just like a drug that allows a person to escape from reality."
Seconal and Nembutal work very well, science-fiction also...beats a Reader's Digest (used extensively in the Christian community along with cold showers, in an attempt to mollify erections.)
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Permalink Reply by Ogden Lafaye on
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I mean, why do you think there are so many Reader's Digests in your doctor's office? Erections of course! Take one home, he won't mind, thats what they are there for.
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Permalink Reply by Eagle Ashcroft on -
You've got a point there as some one asked me the same thing and my reply was "If there is one, in which I doubt, then I am sure I would be judged that I sacrificed most of my life and money to helping the oppressed and the less fortunate. I worked in the Civil Rights Movement most of my life and love all living things and the civil rights of all humans. So that might be taken in consideration. However if there is a god I just can not accept in even the most iota of thought that there is a devil as it smacks of fairies and boogeyman's. But the idea of god whom has power over life and death would let people beat up and kills gays, rape women, molest children, cause famines, floods, earthquakes, blizzards, war, disease and all of the other terrible things committed to the human race has me in doubt of such a being rather a spirit or as the Hitteon Faith describes as "everything we see, feel, touch and hear is but the illusion of the creator god in which we are it." That might make more sense than anything else to me; a being who is totally alone who day dreams and it/he/she begins to believe its fantasy is real and therefore it is real in its sight. Sort of like an insane being left all alone in the universe with no hope of there ever being another like it, creates from its day dreams a universe that does not really exist except in its own mind and it is you and me that is the real being, but we imagine that the other is really an illusion. Therefore since we are this lone being we can imagine anything we wish and it will manifest its self for us. We do not need much money to live on, yet we have everything we want and power beyond the greatest power possible and with this power we can control others. I joined the Hitteons back in the early seventies after quitting the Mormon church and rose through their priesthoods and there was some truth in what they taught. So I can understand your wondering.
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Permalink Reply by DINKY on -
Hi Danny ,one more thing i wanna add is that we are living lives of humans ;with a sense of humanity, and don't worry that if people don't believe in god ,still then there wont be any barbarism in the world ,till humanity is alive ...which is the an important thing which is running the reaction(life on earth and nature's balance). ..........go to my discussion...why do we exist ? it will answer a few of your questions.
Religions were developed only to stop people from becoming barbaric in pursue of materiality.A fear of unknown.
Dinkar
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on -
Bibo, ergo sum! I DRINK, therefore I am! [chuckle!]
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on
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Ummmm ... so you could stop BEING?!? DUDE!!!
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Permalink Reply by Ogden Lafaye on
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Check your mirror
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Permalink Reply by Hal Prentice on -
I would take H.L. Mencken's approach when asked this question and was standing before god. Mencken said he would say, "Sir, I was wrong."
That said, the probability is so low, that the question is hardly worth consideration. I would prefer to turn the question around and ask, "why do you waste even a small portion of your precious life contemplating such a pointless and meaningless question?" I certainly wasted enough time on this question years ago. No longer.
I am a strong agnostic using the Dawkins 7 point scale (about 6.7). Yes, there is always some degree of uncertainty, but some things are more certain than others. As Stephen J. Gould said, "I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms."
I apologize for any repetition in this post. I haven't read all the comments, so it is likely that others have already said much the same thing.
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Permalink Reply by Dr. Terence Meaden on -
You are so right Larry.
On Dawkins' 7-point scale I said at once, when I first read Dawkins' comment, that I am a 7.0 even if Richard Dawkins is not.
Terry.
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on
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Terry, if some of us nasty scientists and engineers hedge a tenth or so, it's because we don't know it all and we know we don't. I wrote on another board some time back that I could even tolerate miracles ... IF THERE WERE SUBJECT TO SOME PROVABLE SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLE. Maybe we ain't discovered that principle yet ... and maybe I'm worried about something that simply won't happen. Point is I don't know and I won't assume.
Barring THAT possibility, yeah, I'm a 7.
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Permalink Reply by Dr. Terence Meaden on
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Despite your cautious comments,
hedging a tenth or so below 7 is simply too much for me.
The farthest that I would shift from a 7 in accepting the highly remote possibility that there is something supernatural behind it all would be to plump for
6.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on
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Good grief! Someone break out the scientific notation! [grin]
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