What do christians make of intersex, pregnant male seahorses, sex changes in fish etc?

eg many fish are intersex & some undergo full sex changes in nature.  Male seahorse gets pregnant & gives birth.

 

Humans can be intersex.

 

what do christians (& other religionists) make of this? 

 

A few opinions I found out there were than intersex individuals were a defect caused by sin & they shouldn't breed & that transexuals are an 'abomination' etc.   How can they justify this view if nature undergoes sex changes, can be asexual, intersex etc?  

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Permalink Reply by Xanthe Wyse on September 23, 2011 at 9:42pm

http://www.healthyplace.com/gender/inside-intersexuality/inside-int...

 

here is a blog by someone who is intersexed (both male and female characteristics & they have XXXY genotype)

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on September 23, 2011 at 9:58pm
Thanks for the link! I'm checking it out now.
Permalink Reply by Steph S. on September 23, 2011 at 10:02pm
Ok, yes. We learned about this condition in Genetics. I know about this. Thanks!
Permalink Reply by Xanthe Wyse on September 24, 2011 at 9:45am

here's some more about genetics etc.  Perhaps 2-4% of population are intersex to some extent?  (but most of these have 'typical' appearance, so don't know)

 

http://www.transfaithonline.org/intersections/intersex/types/

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on September 23, 2011 at 9:47pm
I don't think most Christians are aware of this and the ones that are just ignore it.
Have you asked any theists what they think about this?
Theists ignore a lot of scientific evidence-- like for example evolution. Some theists believe that the devil put dinosaur bones on earth to confuse people about evolution. (they explain away the evidence with weird beliefs). So maybe they have a weird belief to explain sex changes in nature.
Permalink Reply by Xanthe Wyse on September 23, 2011 at 10:40pm

no I haven't asked theists (I haven't bothered with the religious forum for a while as so frustrating).

 

I did find this: http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVanswers/2011/03-04b.html

 

It seems that humans are considered by religionists to not be part of the animal kingdom (and certainly not apes, as they are now classified). They say god doesn't make mistakes & justify 'defects' as caused by human sin (affecting all 'creation').

 

 

Permalink Reply by Xanthe Wyse on September 24, 2011 at 2:17am

and transgender people are considered to be rebelling against 'how god made them'

 

https://sites.google.com/site/transchristians/denominations

Permalink Reply by Susan Stanko on September 24, 2011 at 10:10am
So, God mad people intersex?  He couldn't make up his mind?
Permalink Reply by Xanthe Wyse on September 24, 2011 at 9:40pm
from what I've read so far, the abrahamic religions insist that god made male and female only & any variation is a defect because of sin.  Tribal people often embraced their intersex & transgender individuals as special (until abrahamic religions poisoned them)
Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on September 23, 2011 at 10:17pm

Very Simple Answer: They Don't Care!!!

Insofar as most christians are concerned, humankind is apart and separate from the rest of creation, created in the image of their homophobic, mega-violent and paternalistic deity, and the bible is THE basis for normalcy and the ultimate guide to life-living.  Homosexuality may occur in hundreds or thousands of OTHER species, but for homo sapiens, sexuality must be fixed and invariant ... because that's a nice, simple answer and it's in agreement with their holy book.

Note that these are the same people who deny climate change and evolution.  They know what they believe and cannot be bothered with facts.

Permalink Reply by Steph S. on September 23, 2011 at 10:34pm
That's right Loren, they don't care. They ignore the facts.
Permalink Reply by Xanthe Wyse on September 23, 2011 at 10:42pm

I put a video of the sexual antics of bonobos (our 'cousins') on an article I wrote, and some christians really freaked out & insisted that it was abnormal animal behaviour - free sex for all.

 

Animals can and do have sex for fun, even with the same sex, but humans have set conditions forced on them

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanim...

 

 

 

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