Would anyone care to comment on what you think, as an atheist, that a person is trying to say when they state that they are spiritual but not religious? My own reaction is very negative; I'm usually expecting them to go on to talk about ESP or auras. But maybe they are just saying they are interested in human values and emotions.
I think that being an atheist means recognizing that although we experience consciousness and emotions while our brains function, everything that we are comes from physical matter and will end when the brain fails and decays. We have no "spirit" separate from our brains.
LOL I think you may have a point there.
I used to say that back when I was exploring and practicing some of the new agey stuff. What I meant was that I believed in a god, but didn't adhere to any sort of formal religion. Yes to angels, ghosts, existence on other planes, the power of the mind, quantum motorcycle maintenance, shamanism, animal guides, smudging a new residence with sage, navel gazing until it hurts to find your inner self, all of that.
Here in Texas, that is usually an intro into a fundie trick used to say, "we don't have a denomination, just the bloood of jeeezzuussahh!!
When I hear it, I run;)
Hearing that all the time, I suspect I'd sprain my eyeballs from rolling them!
Very well put!
A few years ago in Houston, Texas I heard a skit on the Hudson and Harrigan radio show where they claimed to belong to the Church of The Holy Frisbee. They said that when you die your soul goes up on the roof and you can't get it down. But seriously folks, B. K. is right. You don't have a soul. YOU are the soul.
Would I be religious if I had a church with an electric chair on the steeple? Maybe a "strap you in" gernie for lethal injections. After all, it is modern times.
I love that "blood of Jesus" one. How much do you bleed from a spear wound in the side? The gullible say all it would have taken was one drop. They forget that "out came blood and water." This is why some people think you are "saved" by water baptism. Let's go home and take a long shower.
Signs of alien abduction include missing time. Where did that 2 hours go? The other day I was running out of time to do my chores and my wife was coming home. Suddenly I gained over an hour. Does this mean there are no aliens?
"Being spiritual" could mean many different things to lots of people, but today ectoplasm has fallen out of favor. You never hear it mentioned these days. Maybe the spirits no longer need it to manifest. Maybe that helper in the darkness does it all.
FUNDIES don't do spiritual versus religious talk. It would show how disorganized they are, and they are bad enough all ready. Fundies know everything. Just ask them.
Fundies do spiritual vs. religious talk ALL THE TIME-I went to a nutty non-denominational school, so I know what they do. They've done it on television-that nutty SALT organization woman was on "Politically Incorrect" doing it with Bill Maher. "We don't need religion, we just need Jesus," etc. It really stems from an anti-Catholic sentiment. They think screaming and rolling in the floor and foaming at the mouth for Jesus is "being Spiritual" without the 'trying to work your way to heaven' stuff of "religion."
I hear it in Texas all the time.
And yes, I have sprained an eyeball.
Hmmm... I see your point, Emily. The "you just need Jesus" babble is very characteristic, and I've sure heard the proclamations about not being able to work your way to heaven. So in that sense, they do discard the trappings of religion in favor of the spiritual "Jesus experience".
I'm in South Carolina-- Southern Baptist land. Just curious-- would you consider Southern Baptists to be fundamentalists or does that label imply nuttiness that goes beyond just the standard Southern Baptist stuff?
What I hear incessantly around here is the babble about "being saved". Apparently in their delusional minds being saved is something very specific-- you either are or you aren't, and there is great concern for family members who aren't. Being saved seems to consist of coming forward in a church service in response to the altar call of the "preacher". Oddly, I think some people get saved more than once. I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut when the "saved" discussions starts. It is just so bizarre and ridiculous. Ya gotta believe the right stuff and it needs to be the Southern Baptist version at that. Otherwise you are not saved. Not sure if you go to hell to suffer forever if you aren't saved or if you just get shut out from all the boring goodies with Jesus and angels for ever and ever.
Ahh.. I'm babbling and rambling. My husband says the Southrn Baptist community (my inlaws) don't really believe ANY of this stuff, "deep down". Man, they seem to do a good job of foooling themselves and each other. How can people live in such a fantasy world?? Will stop now. Smile...