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The United Socialist Federal Republic?

The economy in the United States is in a collapse. The Capitalist system does not work anymore; banks have become more powerful than our politicians. The government now has a policy based around Fear and Greed. The rich are getting
richer and more powerful, while the great masses of America wallow in poverty.

Must we continue to exist in this passive state, only living to serve the rich and powerful? Or do we, the great masses, stand up against the policies of Fear, and Greed, and
God? We must break the bonds that
separate us, we must pull down the centers of Greed and Fear and we must pull
down the houses of God.

These borders are created to separate us into individuals where we can be controlled easier.

We must stand up, against the tyranny of the centers of Greed, and Fear, and God; quoting John Adams: “People should not fear government, government should fear people.”
Once we stand up to Fear, to Greed, to God, we will become united!

This being said, I advocate the collapse of the Capitalist system and the foundation of the United Socialist Federal Republic, in which the government will exist to serve the people.
Capitalism is Dead. We must put
it out of it’s misery and move on toward Socialism.

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Permalink Reply by TNT666 on January 6, 2011 at 2:56pm

We don't 'need' any of that shyte. They are strictly tools of social repression. In the USA, more people die of food poisening due to an inefficient FDA EVERY SINGLE YEAR, than were killed in on 09/11.

Terrorism is the government's mantra to keep people fearful, and willing to accept supression of rights.

Do you know there have long been areas in Canada where public phone booths are shut down at night "to prevent illegal transactions"?...

The day Western civilisation stops dumping it's garbage policies onto the rest of the world, we'll be safer. Terrorism is the consequence of our own inaction to make our governments listen behave responsibly.

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Permalink Reply by TNT666 on January 6, 2011 at 3:31pm

White people should just GET OUT OF AFRICA, in body, in finance, in corporate. WE have fucked up Africa and now you blame Africa for terrorism... that is almost funny, if it were'nt so sad.

You have bought into the fearmongering... simple as that.

Brits are pretty much a secular society now, all that's needed now is to tear down all religious institutions... the muslims/christians that are there can just to their worshipping at home, in small groups, to prevent them from gaining power.

I want the same thing here, once tax breaks are completely removed from religion, they won't survive and will have to get rid of many churches. Let the French Revolution Dereligification come again.

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Permalink Reply by Hiram on November 24, 2010 at 10:25pm

I think the gist is that we want people before profit, doesn't matter what you call it but socialism does provide historical and contemporary models (like worker coops) for the emancipation of the poor ... and calling ourselves socialist also generates the awareness that we HAVE BEEN through the class struggle and that the working class and the poor WON already: that is what the label SOCIALISM does, it gives those in power the impression that the power is in the hands of the people, not of the few, much less of corporations.

The problem with American capitalism is that it's not just capitalism, it's heartless CORPORATISM. It's extremist capitalism, it's completely dehumanizing and anti-democratic, and our government belongs to these heartless capitalists. Trillions of our tax dollars are being squandered fighting wars that only serve the interests of oil and military investors and kill millions, and lobbyists from all industries including the oil, pharma and even cancer and aids industries, are buying our lawmakers in d.c. right under our noses so that laws are passed that only serve corporations and are detrimental to our public health, to our human rights, to the environment, to the consumers, the workers, etc.

This is gonna be a huge battle in the future generations: tiny humans against giant, impersonal corporations. I myself have been unemployed and underemployed for two years and am beginning to be unable to pay the mortgage. The assets of the richest fifth in the US have tripled in the last three decades while the vast majority of Americans are entering a vicious cycle of poverty ... meanwhile the banks are being bailed out and while ceo's get unwarranted millions of dollars in bonuses with that money, thousands of workers lost their jobs in this recession (myself included, i used to work for bank of america).

America is becoming a country of poor people. We do not need to fast forward another generation: it's already happening.

This is going to fundamentally change our collective psyche, it's already changing us. We can't be convinced by media and the gov't into thinking we're the great superpower if you go out in the streets and see the homeless, the destitute everywhere. We will swing to the left, for sure, and there may be a revolution around the corner.

I think we've been turning into a country of poor people for a while, but many people were hipnotized by corporate-controlled media into thinking they were 'average middle class americans' for very long. A PERSON LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK IS NOT MIDDLE CLASS. People had a false class conscience. But that's changing now that people can't escape the truth.

It's actually liberating to admit that I'm truly poor, for the first time in my life. A person can't be part of a class struggle without first realizing viscerally that he is destitute. I hope more people realize where we really are at this junction in history and stop voting against their own interests.

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Permalink Reply by Dogly on December 16, 2010 at 12:04pm

Hiram, I think you explained much of the passivity of the American LOWER CLASS. If they (we?) can't stand to admit that they are destitute, powerless, and that legal remedies offer little hope, they will not struggle for themselves. We lust after stuff. We identify with the rich, famous, and powerful. We pretend to believe the myths that hard work will make us rich, that anyone can be president, and in American we have a system of Justice. In fact, it is considered in poor taste for anyone to say that he is poor. To admit to be low class is unheard of!

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Permalink Reply by Park Bierbower on December 10, 2010 at 11:07am

I admire your enthusiasm... but looking at america, and the world at large, it is highly unlikely that a revolution will occur... violence will only hinder the cause, because then it provides the powers that be an excuse to use extreme force in return. It must be a hearts and minds operation, and will take many years~ although as we've seen with new technologies and advancements, paradigms can shift much quicker now. its about being tactful and mindful of the collective psyche, and predicting how people will react to certain events~ then coordinating those events to suit the agenda.

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Permalink Reply by Andrew Lafont on December 10, 2010 at 1:27pm

As I have stated before, if I can get the United Socialist Federal Republic without out fighting all do it in a heartbeat...But it is the rich--the top 1%--who will see this as a threat and therefore use their power to build up the military and attack.

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Permalink Reply by TNT666 on January 6, 2011 at 2:34pm

Not only that but in a nation such as Canada, organised dissent is practically unheard of anymore since government agencies have penetrated all organisations. In addition, governments here plant 'agitateurs' into activists groups to make them appear violent to the population to make sure organisations lose popular support.

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Permalink Reply by Andrew Lafont on December 10, 2010 at 1:31pm

I fully support you!

My full vision is to see the world as a Socialist State. A classless society where everyone is equal and everyone works toward the betterment of Humanity.

Just think of the technological advancements that we could create! Think of how advanced we might be!

There will be no rich or poor, no classes, no religion, no government, no military, no church, no banks; we will be free!

Humanity just shake off the bonds which have separated us and controlled us; we must shake off the shackles of Capitalism and move towards Socialism!!