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The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist. The supernatural does not exist.

Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe. Le surnaturel n'existe.

Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert. Das Übernatürliche nicht existiert.

AC/DC - Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be - Live, 1977

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Permalink Reply by booklover on January 28, 2012 at 9:48am

So what you're saying is, "the supernatural does not exist"? ;)

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on January 28, 2012 at 10:32am

HUH?!? Where'd you get THAT one from, booklover??? [smirk-smirk ... GUFFAW!!!]

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Permalink Reply by booklover on January 29, 2012 at 8:01am

lol

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Permalink Reply by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 29, 2012 at 10:47am

Yes booklover. We emanate from the earth and to the earth we return. We are made entirely of organic material which will fertilise the ground and help the grass to grow.

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Permalink Reply by booklover on January 29, 2012 at 1:11pm

I know Napoleon, and I totally agree. I was referencing a joke from a movie. :)

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Permalink Reply by Napoleon Bonaparte on April 24, 2012 at 7:20pm

Which movie ?

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Permalink Reply by Dorris Journeay on January 28, 2012 at 11:26am

No, but it is possible to be supersaturated.

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Permalink Reply by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 29, 2012 at 10:57am

You can be 'supersaturated' with nonsense but not the truth ?

Thanks for stating your view.

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Permalink Reply by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 28, 2012 at 4:02pm

Why can't I say 'There is no such thing as a supernature or a supernature does not exist ? Well, I can but I'm helping to invent a new word. Our language seems to presume that the supernatural does exist. I'm looking for a noun and the Oxford dictionary does not have a word supernature. Only Wikipedia refers to the words use in artistic writing.

Of course, the supernatural doesn't exist and it may be necessary to inform fellow Atheists. This is because the word Atheism does not exclude belief in the supernatural. The Oxford dictionary defines the word as a lack of belief that God or gods exist, disbelief in the existence of God or gods; godlessness. Therefore, it is arguable that a godless Atheist might still believe in ghosts, angels and devils thus still embracing a non-existent supernature. Only the encyclopedias vaguely refer to Atheism in a broader sense.

I don't believe in a Supernature. Do you ?

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Permalink Reply by Steph S. on January 28, 2012 at 5:30pm

No I don't believe in anything supernatural. I think strange events can be explained by science.

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Permalink Reply by Napoleon Bonaparte on January 29, 2012 at 10:58am

Exactly Steph !

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Permalink Reply by Loren Miller on January 28, 2012 at 5:50pm

Basically ... no, I don't.

And so long as we're talking about it, let's break out that quote I mentioned earlier:

One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word.
-- Robert A. Heinlein

If there is some mechanism which operates outside of the currently understood laws of physics, it either has its own order and rules of operation or it is chaotic and therefore difficult if not impossible to use or employ in any form of coherent fashion. As such, any "supernature" would be no different from any other physical property, except that it is currently outside of our perception.

There was a time when a true understanding of planetary motion or chemistry or nuclear physics was outside of our grasp. We have gained understanding of those fields incrementally, and the more we learn, the more we are equipped to learn and the faster we learn it.

I tend not to think that there is an entire field of physics which is beyond our understanding because at the present level of comprehension, I believe we would have the means of seeing clues or hints to its existence. There would be traces, evidence, suggestions of something not fully understood, something like the dark energy / dark matter puzzle physics is faced with today.

Physics is concerned with two very basic concepts: things and processes. If a thing or a process is perceptible, then it should yield to study, to experiment and analysis. If it is in no way available to senses or instrumentation, can it be said to exist?

As Heinlein said, the concept of supernature is bogus. Nature is what there is, and there is plenty of it to learn.