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This time I am in argument with my mother over "under god" being in the pledge and how we are disrespectful to our country for not saying it. I am going insane with people confusing patriotism with or pledge that was altered in 1954 and violates our first amendment. I am very much in agreement with the rest of our allegiance; just not the "god" part. Any other rants out there?

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I have never said the pledge in my life. My nutso Jehovahs Witness family was against it, I had no idea why but I liked being different and the only one in class that just stood there in school. As an adult I am glad I never had to do it, I wouldn't mind my kids saying it if they would take the "in god" out but I have serious doubts on that one. When I was little kids thought I was weird but being in situations as an adult and simply not following the sheeplike crowds we have in this country gets you some dirty looks. But that's OK, I just smile and remind myself that I am better than them ;) hehe
Agreed. Another form of indoctrination. Like there aren't perfectly wonderful nations on the planet where it would be a privilege to live.

I had to say the Pledge in private school. Also, I had to make a pledge to the bible and to the flag.  It was all part of the chapel service we went to.

Here's a link to the pledges.

 

http://www.christianhomeschoolers.com/christian_pledges.html
Pledge to the Christian flag and the bible?  wth?
Yeah, did you see the site with the pledges? At least I didn't have to do the lamb one. Haha
To me, the real irony of the pledge, is that there are those who demand people recite it, even if against their will, to prove how free those people are who are compelled to say it.
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Thanks for the info!

Only Americans are dumb enough to pledge fealty to a textile.

 

Ambrose Bierce:  flag: N. a colored rag borne above troops and hoisted on forts and
ships. it appears to serve the same purpose as certain signs that one
sees and vacant lots in london -- "rubbish may be shot here."

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