The cost of masculine crime

"Men are, by a huge margin, the sex responsible for violent, sexual and other serious crime. The economic cost of this ‘masculine excess’ in delinquency is staggering - to say nothing of its emotional toll. Why is the social shaping of masculinity not an urgent policy issue?"

Don't give me the old bromide that testosterone did it! That is an excuse! A denial of self-responsibility! A claim that protects violent men from being held accountable. Both men and women suffer because of these brutes! 


"Of the one-third of a million people in England and Wales found guilty of an indictable offence in the 12 months ending June 2012, 85% were men. The more violent the crime, the more men predominate. From a unique table deep in the quarterly Ministry of Justice Criminal Justice Statistics Bulletin for England and Wales we learn that males were 88% of those found guilty of violence against the person, and more than 98% of those committing sexual offences."

Just as the women of Turkey, dressed from head to toe in heavy gabardine in 100 degree F weather, to conceal their bodies because men couldn't control their impulses to rape, so, men of many countries continue to think they are entitled to use and abuse women. Doesn't that sound sophomoric to you? How can anyone claim they can't control their natural urges? If men were subject to such impulses, doesn't that imply those who can't exist as less human than the gentler ones? More like beasts than Homo sapiens. 

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My husband is non violent, all 3 of his brothers are non violent, their father was non violent, so nobody can tell me testosterone is at fault! 

I agree, it isn't testosterone, in spite of the claim. It has to do with belief. The belief that men are superior to women, that women must submit and obey fathers, husbands and sons, that men have authority to beat their wives if women do not comply. 

This barbaric custom comes down in only some families. For those of us who are scions of that heritage have to fight to have a voice, to have control over our bodies, to participate as equals to the men in our families. 

I am so very glad your husband, his father and brothers are not violent. They have a different belief system than men of my cultural inheritance. 

You and I know testosterone is not the cause of violence. How to influence women so that they do not believe they have to submit; and how to influence men that they are not in control of women and how to treat women as equals. 

None of my husband's family attend any church, although the grandparents were xian in name or whatever way back when. Says a little something methinks.

@Joan and Patricia,.....Testosterone  has been proven  to cause  aggression...Not all men  are  aggressive,however, some  men have  more  testosterone  than others. There are  other factors  also  that can contribute  to aggression such as one's mental state  and one's  surroundings.....It is true  that if a woman is injected with  testosterone, she  could  become  more  aggressive, emphasis  on could......There is a  difference  between  aggression   and  violence....Aggression could  be  just vocal and intimidating, not necessarily  physically  striking out....It is also  true  that violent  behavior  can be  hereditary....So many  factors  are  involved.....  

A couple of things. It's definitely beliefs and culture, probably mildly exacerbated by testosterone. But without the culture and beliefs, it'd just be a bunch of guys that are way too into board games.

Second, if your testosterone is so high that you attack other men and rape women in a manner that is completely beyond your control, evolution has made a mistake and the rest of us have a responsibility to remove you from the gene pool. Sorry.

That said, are you ready to take responsibility now, or do we have to clip or kill you?

Dan D, how I longed for someone, anyone, to knock abusing men out. I did knock my father out when he came at me with his fist drawn back to strike me. It was a fluke, but when he came back to consciousness, I was standing over him and told him if he ever hit me, I would sue him for everything he had. I was 36 at the time. I'm a slow learner! 

My father would hit me, and I fantasized about coming back when I was big and strong and beating HIM up.  But he died first. 

Masculinity, the effects of testosterone, can involve the potential for aggression and violence, more than actual violence.

This may be a highly honorable thing, if the aggression is used in the right way. 

I totally  agree Luara

I've never been a violent person and I hate seeing senseless violent acts perpetrated on others.  I'm gay, so some people may infer that I'm passive and nonviolent as a result of having gay/effeminate qualities, but I call bullshit on that.  In my immediate and extended family where most of the male brothers, cousins, uncles, nephews, etc. are heterosexual, none, and I mean NONE, are violent persons.  Violence toward others is obviously a trait that is learned within specific environments, and my family and relatives have never been part of any culture that encourages or condones violence. 

I also think the company of friends you keep says a lot about yourself personally.  I don't have violent friends, male or female.  I certainly wouldn't want to be acquainted in any manner with people prone to fits of violence.  That's just not my scene. 

I wish I could say that the attitudes and beliefs of some families have changed, but the reality is, there continues to be brutes married to passive women. If both men and women declared violence is no way to resolve conflicts, I think we would see rapid change. 

Your gentle nature, Carl, and sweet temperament speaks well of your character. The fact that you are the only gay member of your family also says something about your family. You seem not to be scarred by shame or guilt. I may be wrong in my assessment, but for whatever reason, you have qualities that every father and mother should have. 

Carl, I agree with your attitudes.  I've also never been violent, and none of my brothers have been violent.  A large factor is probably our father.  He was not violent, in fact, he was the kindest man I've known.


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