Considering I haven't posted on this forum in almost two months either, maybe you should just stop pulling things out of your ass.
Also, how many theists do you know that maintain that Jesus was an apocalyptic nutcase? Because that's my view, but you wouldn't know, because you don't have a fucking clue about that either.
But thanks for keeping up with the ad hominems and sleezy implications. It reminds me off why I don't frequent this site anymore.
Thanks Jim, I really appreciate that.
It still boggles my mind how quickly many who see me arguing for the existence of a historical Jesus (and the only reason I do that in the first place is because so many atheists seem to think that they have to deny this, which I think is an unsupportable position), will immediately draw the line from "This guy thinks Jesus is not a 100% pure invention by evil men with an agenda for world domination" to "This guy is a Christian and a theist and needs to be scorned."
I suspect that the reason for this is that many fundamentalist Christians that fall away from their religion make the (usually emotionally fueled) transition from "There is a God, the Bible is his inspired word, and religion is the best thing that ever happened to mankind" to the completely reverted position: nothing in the Bible can have some basis in fact, all violence would disappear if we got rid of religion, etcetera... Now, while I think this position is closer to the truth, it still contains quite some errors and it is ultimately just as dogmatic as what they came from.
A large part of turning these people into (pardon the expression) "better atheists" is to teach them to really think critically and sceptically and teach them how to analyse their beliefs without an emotional bias at all - positive or negative.
Anyway, it sounds like we're on the same page.
I dont want to attack Bible, but hope Bible did not attack me first, if somebody ask me to thank God first no matter things good or not, i think it wants to control my feeling this way is an attacking. I will like the sun gives us heat and cold, also feel happy that we have different feeling of suffering or experences. I would be calm if not be attacked, that means I dont want to make trouble to Bible if I am respected by my way.
I'm certainly not afraid
to attack that fucking evil piece of crap
I don't think any of us attack the Bible so much as we dispute fundy-type interpretations of it. Part of the problem is that True Believers are taught that there are no errors, mistakes, or contradictions in the Bible, so if you spot a flaw, then in their eyes you are attacking the Bible. They have also been taught that people who are "saved" understand the world through the "spiritual mind," but the rest of us use the "carnal mind." Because they are saved and we are not, then, they are always right about the Bible and we are always wrong, REGARDLESS of what the words on the page actually say and/or how many times we have read the Bible or commentaries on it. They have been taught that no one is supposed to question the Bible. "The Word is the Word," as one student said to me recently. I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can profess to live by a book he or she hasn't read.
I like the King James, too. If you go to Psalm 46 and count in 46 words from the beginning, you will see the word "shake." If you count backwards 46 words from the end, you find the word "spear." In 1611, when the KJV was released, William Shakespeare was 46 years old.
It's a smegging miracle.
It has been the cause of much evil for 100's of years so I still srand by my statement thet THE BIBLE IS EVIL.
I'm not expecting proof; for many Christians, the empty tomb is "proof" that Jesus was resurrected. And the Jesus in the NT is not an Essene, but his teachings may be adapted from the Teacher of Righteousness, who lived a couple of centuries earlier.